Cooper - OUT

[Elsie Effcee]

You know when you've lost hope for a good performance when you find the weather is more entertaining.  You start to fantasize about who the lightening might strike rather than who would strike a goal!

[shiv]

Just not good enough I’m afraid. I was more than willing I give him a chance but my patience has worn after just 5 games.

 

Tactically, he is inept. In the first half he had our front 4 pressing but our back line super deep which meant Everton were able to glide through our midfield with just a few passes.

 

He claims to have watched all our games last season, so surely on that basis it’s logical to start Ricardo, Fatawu and Mavididi - our 3 best players.

 

His in game management is one of the worst I’ve ever seen. I could list so many examples but just focusing on Everton, he should’ve subbed Bilal at HT, 30k fans knew Ayew should’ve come off for Fatawu at 75 mins and you have to give Ricardo some minutes.

 

Unfortunately he is not learning from his long list of mistakes. His post match interview was alarming. His justification for subbing Mavididi was bizarre - you’re telling me he couldn’t last another 6 minutes  he also said he’s aware that 4-5 of our goals have come from our right hand side yet continues with Justin at RB.

 

I was willing to give him a chance after Palace but that’s done it for me. Sadly we all know our inept board won’t do anything until it’s too late.

[Stevosevic]

18 winless PL games for Potter now? 

[Happy Fox]

Cooper is inept at this level, ostracising one of our best players in Ricardo is a criminal offence. He deserves to be booted just for that.

[Pliskin]

The simple facts are the longer Cooper stays, the worse we will get. It was a horrendous appointment and the board just need to admit they’ve got it wrong and get rid ASAP. If you want pragmatic you go for Moyes. If you want to try and go back in the direction of early Todgers and Enzo, you try for Potter or Corberan…… There are much better options out there than this clown. Moyes would be my option, despite people not wanting him, he is a billion times the coach Cooper will ever be, and he would probably guarantee comfortable safety.

[teblin]

At home vs Everton. Says it all really

 

 

[LeePhilpottsBaldSpot]

12 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

18 winless PL games for Potter now? 

Hard to win a game when you're unemployed tbf 

[Happy Fox]

12 wins out of 60 games for Cooper in the premier league is dogshite, that’s 0.2 ratio win rate.

 

Potter is significantly better with 41 wins from 142 games, at 0.28

 

Moyes has a 0.38 ratio win rate.

 

[Noahfence]

Has he gone yet? 

[Reg Vardy]

1 hour ago, winteriscoming said:

They finished last season really well. Had an indifferent start to this season but have got 2 draws against Utd and Chelsea. 

And Leicester

[Reg Vardy]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Just cos your star striker Kier is firing blanks, there is no need for Trump-ish new truths is there?

Paul Holloway might be….

[Happy Fox]

At best with Cooper we are only going to get a paltry 7 wins a season in the premier league which won’t be enough to keep us up imo.

 

With Potter about 11 wins a season which would keep us up.

 

Moyes with about 14 wins would keep us quite comfortably. 
 

Basically Cooper isn’t good enough at this level, the sooner we sack him the better.

[Blanchflower78]

I think what compels it is the fact that's arguably the poorest Everton side they'll put out this season. We looked anything like a convincing home side looking to grab out first win against a severely struggling team.

 

You just sense the lads don't look comfortable or happy under him. 

 

Nothing will happen before Xmas I'm sure but by then the damage is done.

[SemperEadem]

This thread will run and run.

[Lcfc82]

18 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The simple facts are the longer Cooper stays, the worse we will get. It was a horrendous appointment and the board just need to admit they’ve got it wrong and get rid ASAP. If you want pragmatic you go for Moyes. If you want to try and go back in the direction of early Todgers and Enzo, you try for Potter or Corberan…… There are much better options out there than this clown. Moyes would be my option, despite people not wanting him, he is a billion times the coach Cooper will ever be, and he would probably guarantee comfortable safety.

Yeah Moyes or Corberan are the 2 choices depending on what direction they want to go.

[Happy Fox]

Gary O’Neil at Wolves has a 0.29 win ratio which is better than Cooper. Sean Dyche with a 0.28 win ratio. 
 

We really do have the worst manager in the league quite comfortably.

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Happy Fox

[Reg Vardy]

5 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

At best with Cooper we are only going to get a paltry 7 wins a season in the premier league which won’t be enough to keep us up imo.

 

With Potter about 11 wins a season which would keep us up.

 

Moyes with about 14 wins would keep us quite comfortably. 
 

Basically Cooper isn’t good enough at this level, the sooner we sack him the better.

Mystic Meg?

[honeybradger]

4 hours ago, Sly said:

I bet Ricardo's is shite like:

 

Good servant

Loyal

Good character

Legacy

Trains well

Historic

Warm bum

[Happy Fox]

Just now, Reg Vardy said:

Mystic Meg?

No not quite , just calculating win rates across a season based of their win records in the premier league.

 

Cooper has 12 wins from 60 premier league games so has a 0.2 win ratio.

 

Potter has 41 wins from 142 games so has a 0.28 win ratio

 

Moyes has 269 wins from 697 games so has a 0.38 win ratio.

 

Multiply the win ratios by 38 games, you are left with 7.6 wins for Cooper so 7-8 games we can expect wins from, which wouldn’t be good enough 

[Tielemans63]

He's actually had a very favourable start to the season in terms of the fixture list. 3 points is a poor return from some very winnable games.

Edited 7 hours ago by Tielemans63

[dooflip]

Moyes is dreamland lads. He won’t want to come here.

 

Watched a podcast recently where he admitted he’s been close to going back to Everton several times (4iirc) since leaving them.

 

Everton are more attractive than us at the moment (pains me to say it) especially to someone with a connection.

 

Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s already in talks with them.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

10 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said:

He's actually had a very favourable start to the season in terms of the fixture list. 3 points is a poor return from some very winnable games.

Yeah. We haven't even played anyone that good yet.

[FrankieADZ]

wonder how Cooper got the job, was Rudkin and Whelan pissed up during the interview or something

looks massively out of his depth, feels like we got him purely cos we didnt have to pay anything

[jonthefox]

Did anyone else think (hope) the game was going to get called off yesterday?.

[Pliskin]

2 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

wonder how Cooper got the job, was Rudkin and Whelan pissed up during the interview or something

looks massively out of his depth, feels like we got him purely cos we didnt have to pay anything

Purely a PRS decision. Potter allegedly was all but sealed but we wouldn’t pay to release his staff from Chelsea…. This isn’t necessarily an issue now….. so I do wonder if the board would make a decision based on this and who’s still available. We won’t win a game under cooper.