Sunbury Fox Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 1 hour ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said: Appreciate the frustration at lost targets, but we have signed plenty of exciting young players in the last 12 months. Fatawu (20), Hermansen (24), Skipp (23), Okoli (23), Cannon (20) and Golding (18) all on permanents, as well as Doyle (19), Casadei (20) and Buononatte (20) on loan. This idea we only sign old timers with no future or resale value is just not factually true. My point was that this summer, apart from the loan signing of Buonanotte (and even in that case we don't even have an option to buy), we have failed with every bid for an exciting young attacking player. Golding doesn't really count as he was a PSR makeweight who is not ready for the first team squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElusiveEd Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 21 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said: Quite the opposite , I'm very positive by nature mixed in with some tongue in cheek irony! I do find the overtime negativity on here a challenge at times tbh mate🤣 Can't argue with that mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VLC86 Posted 24 August Popular Post Share Posted 24 August 2 hours ago, The whole world smiles said: Interestingly he scored less goals and assisted less in the Belgium league than Jordan Ayew did in the premier league last season yet Ayew was a pathetic signing and this is good? 4 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 11 minutes ago, Scotch said: Apparently you don't like when people are overly enthusiastic either though. You should change you're name to ready salted. No great difference between this fellas stats and Ayew's , was the real point I was making, difference being Ayew has achieved ot in the Premier League! All for enthusiasm but the 'overt' negativity on one in comparison to jizz fest on this one I find incredulous! Each to their own , just an 'opinion' 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 1 hour ago, Bluetintedspecs said: No great difference between this fellas stats and Ayew's , was the real point I was making, difference being Ayew has achieved ot in the Premier League! All for enthusiasm but the 'overt' negativity on one in comparison to jizz fest on this one I find incredulous! Each to their own , just an 'opinion' 😉 OFCOURSE people are going to be more excited about signing an up and coming 20 year old who should get far better than his current level and potentially retrieve a good profit from future sales, which in turn will allow us to stay on the right side of FFP regulations and repeat the process than they are about a soon to be 33 year old who is only going to decrease in value and ability, which never been better than adequate even in his prime. I've never heard of this lad and I accept Ayew makes decent footballing sense but so does he. The only difference is that he makes decent business sense too and we've not shown a whole lot of that recently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 1 hour ago, VLC86 said: I mean, you might not have heard of him, that's a little bit different. As for Premier League striker, technically Neal Maupay is but we'd have more success sticking Danny Ward up front tbqh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeePhilpottsBaldSpot Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 1 hour ago, Sunbury Fox said: My point was that this summer, apart from the loan signing of Buonanotte (and even in that case we don't even have an option to buy), we have failed with every bid for an exciting young attacking player. Golding doesn't really count as he was a PSR makeweight who is not ready for the first team squad. Fatawu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 24 minutes ago, LeePhilpottsBaldSpot said: Fatawu That was agreed last summer. We had an obligation to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 3 hours ago, Bluetintedspecs said: Yeah the Internet's great ain't it! Or are these multiple people 'researching' actual football scouts ? Gotta be earning great money unearthing these gems for the club....kudos 👍👏 You completely changed the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny_wright Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 4 year deal apparently for the Moroccan Modric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 8 minutes ago, jonny_wright said: 4 year deal apparently for the Moroccan Modric I wonder if this is a good source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enmac Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August Just now, Micky said: I wonder if this is a good source? 90,000 followers. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-sodapop Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 2 minutes ago, Micky said: I wonder if this is a good source? He's just reiterating what the first tweet in this topic said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focks Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August He'll be our first Moroccan since Mustapha Hadji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 8 minutes ago, Focks said: He'll be our first Moroccan since Mustapha Hadji Hadji played for us...? Thought he was only at Cov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 1 hour ago, jonny_wright said: 4 year deal apparently for the Moroccan Modric 4 year deal makes no sense for us - gives player too much strength in two/three years time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 20 minutes ago, st albans fox said: 4 year deal makes no sense for us - gives player too much strength in two/three years time Last time we did this was Tielemans. I think it's a sign of the drop in wages we're offering players from the off. Probably only offering £35-40k rather than £60-70k off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 21 minutes ago, st albans fox said: 4 year deal makes no sense for us - gives player too much strength in two/three years time That is what his agent is for. We can't have it all our way, especially with the time frame and our desperate need for players. 4 years is better than 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August Some might be wary of being caught upstream without a Khannous, but I'd sooner wait for a proper striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkas Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 54 minutes ago, st albans fox said: 4 year deal makes no sense for us - gives player too much strength in two/three years time Helps with the amortisation for the FFP. You amortise the cost over the life of the contract. If we spend £12m then it's £3m a year amortisation over four years instead of £4m a year over three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August (edited) 14 minutes ago, fkas said: Helps with the amortisation for the FFP. You amortise the cost over the life of the contract. If we spend £12m then it's £3m a year amortisation over four years instead of £4m a year over three. Normal deals are five years 4 years does the opposite of help with psr they probably wanted a release clause but we don’t do those compromise was to say they’d only sign 4 years in that case (Assuming we’ve actually seriously spoken to the player’s agent ) Edited 24 August by st albans fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkas Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Normal deals are five years 4 years does the opposite of help with psr they probably wanted a release clause but we don’t do those compromise was to say they’d only sign 4 years in that case (Assuming we’ve actually seriously spoken to the player’s agent ) I'd agree but the assertion above was that a three year deal would be better. Five year deal, particularly for a 20 year old is ideal. I don't have a problem with a release clause but it needs to be smarter than a flat fee. Something like double his transfer fee for the first 12 months and then an additional £7.5m on top for each 12 months thereafter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 5 minutes ago, fkas said: I'd agree but the assertion above was that a three year deal would be better. Five year deal, particularly for a 20 year old is ideal. I don't have a problem with a release clause but it needs to be smarter than a flat fee. Something like double his transfer fee for the first 12 months and then an additional £7.5m on top for each 12 months thereafter. I’m not going to look back but did someone really post that a three year deal is better ?? For a twenty y o ??? agree with your release clause stuff but I still think we simply won’t consider them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 16 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I’m not going to look back but did someone really post that a three year deal is better ?? No. Nobody did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 24 August Share Posted 24 August 5 hours ago, VLC86 said: TBF the premier league player was the free kick specialist Ayew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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