StriderHiryu Posted Thursday at 16:43 Share Posted Thursday at 16:43 32 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Should just play Fatawu as that high full back shouldn't they and Bounanotte as the RW that plays centrally. Would be far too radical though. He did try that against Shrewsbury in pre-season, but it didn't work too well. There's literally no reason to change the system to go the way Cooper did. On paper it should make you better on transition, but we look worse! Justin has been caught out numerous times pushing up to attack when playing this way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daggers Posted Thursday at 16:44 Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 16:44 2 hours ago, Ric Flair said: I respect his comments about the criticism. Classy response to be fair. I'd have respected them if he'd held his hands up, admitted he just doesn't have what it takes, and resigned during the press conference. Everything else is fudge and delusion. I've no time for people who can't be honest about their own shortcomings. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted Thursday at 16:44 Share Posted Thursday at 16:44 Here's my match preview. I expect us to park the bus, if Cooper was brave (lmao) he could try and replicate what Atalanta did and go man-for-man against Arsenal. With some of the players we have (Ndidi, Ayew, Justin), I think there's an argument for it working. Warnock did it with Huddersfield against us last season and it almost worked. It of course carries risk, but so does sitting with a 541 hoping to hold out... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoneticerror Posted Thursday at 17:49 Share Posted Thursday at 17:49 Shock win incoming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted Thursday at 18:25 Share Posted Thursday at 18:25 4 hours ago, Happy Fox said: He talks a good game but in reality he cannot walk the walk. We lose on Saturday he has to go. Don’t imagine the axe would fall after losing away to Arsenal, would need to be a loss of biblical proportions you would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted Thursday at 18:40 Share Posted Thursday at 18:40 50 minutes ago, phoneticerror said: Shock win incoming I can't stop this niggling away at me either, which basically means a 7 nil defeat actually happening 😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfanlee23 Posted Thursday at 18:46 Share Posted Thursday at 18:46 I think we will setup in an 8-1-1 formation and lose 4-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analysethis Posted Thursday at 19:45 Share Posted Thursday at 19:45 Living and working in London, I am really not looking forward to this. It could be 6 or 7 here even with the 532 formation we will no doubt play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox42 Posted Thursday at 19:48 Share Posted Thursday at 19:48 He’s going to put an all-out attacking starting lineup for this, isn’t he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted Thursday at 19:50 Share Posted Thursday at 19:50 4 minutes ago, Analysethis said: Living and working in London, I am really not looking forward to this. It could be 6 or 7 here even with the 532 formation we will no doubt play. Can I stop and yours after? I have a 6 pack of Carling. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted Thursday at 19:57 Share Posted Thursday at 19:57 This might be brutal. 5 or 6.... we're losing it either way, so an absolute trouncing might get the ****er gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted Thursday at 19:58 Share Posted Thursday at 19:58 (edited) 20 hours ago, StriderHiryu said: Correct, which is truly insane. Especially when the one fullback we have that could actually play that way doesn't feature in the league. We don't have a single fullback who can play that role effectively; Ricardo doesn't have enough physically. It only makes sense to deploy that system if your standout player is a beast of an attacking fullback. He's picking a formation which side lines 1 out of our 2 most creative players. Scandalous. 20 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Should just play Fatawu as that high full back shouldn't they and Bounanotte as the RW that plays centrally. Would be far too radical though. Antonio Conte managed to make it work with Victor Moses. Edited yesterday at 12:23 by coolhandfox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza M Posted Thursday at 20:08 Share Posted Thursday at 20:08 Need to try and find a way to hold the ball up the pitch for as long as possible so the ball isn't just coming back after clearing it away each time. For that reason I think Ayew will start again because he can do that a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted Thursday at 20:20 Share Posted Thursday at 20:20 11 minutes ago, Gazza M said: Need to try and find a way to hold the ball up the pitch for as long as possible so the ball isn't just coming back after clearing it away each time. For that reason I think Ayew will start again because he can do that a bit. This has whats disappointed me most so far about Ayew. For the most 0art he's looked weak given his supposed prowess at thus, he's also barely got near a man to close down either. Looks several weeks off full fitness which surely isn't the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FosseSpark Posted Thursday at 20:25 Share Posted Thursday at 20:25 this is our best team Hermansen Justin Faes Okoli Ricardo Winks Skipp Kristiansen Fatawu Vardy Mavididi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ClaphamFox Posted Thursday at 20:26 Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 20:26 26 minutes ago, ronnup said: This might be brutal. 5 or 6.... we're losing it either way, so an absolute trouncing might get the ****er gone He’s not going to get sacked after a loss at Arsenal, no matter how brutal it is. And we might just need the goal difference at the end of the season. We’ll fight them hard on Saturday and lose narrowly. Cooper will get his run of winnable games to prove himself. The rest is up to him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted Thursday at 20:50 Share Posted Thursday at 20:50 19 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: He’s not going to get sacked after a loss at Arsenal, no matter how brutal it is. And we might just need the goal difference at the end of the season. We’ll fight them hard on Saturday and lose narrowly. Cooper will get his run of winnable games to prove himself. The rest is up to him. First balanced and reasonable take I've seen on here in months. I don't agree that it's delusions of grandeur from the likes of TALKSHITE because we have always had that condescending view of our club to keep us in our place since the title win. But there definitely needs to be more balance and a realisation that this hasn't been the worst start in the world. I got told the Walsall game didn't matter in the Alves thread when everyone said to lump him and all the other youngsters in even if we lose, so I'm not judging a 0-0 with ****ing Soumare playing either. All that said, if we don't win in that run of games after Arsenal even I won't be able to defend him and it will be quite clearly time to go. I think he will win 2 of them though. Just hope one is the scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted Thursday at 20:56 Share Posted Thursday at 20:56 28 minutes ago, FosseSpark said: this is our best team Hermansen Justin Faes Okoli Ricardo Winks Skipp Kristiansen Fatawu Vardy Mavididi Dump JJ and put a proper centre half in there that can position himself and not gift the ball to the opposition every 5 minutes and you may be onto something? Vestergaard isn't doing much lately and he can pass to his own players too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted Thursday at 21:21 Share Posted Thursday at 21:21 24 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: Vestergaard isn't doing much lately and he can pass to his own players too! And he's also unavailable - injured apparently! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Eaton Fox Posted Thursday at 21:28 Share Posted Thursday at 21:28 1 hour ago, FosseSpark said: this is our best team Hermansen Justin Faes Okoli Ricardo Winks Skipp Kristiansen Fatawu Vardy Mavididi defensive but with speed on the break. might just work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted Thursday at 21:32 Share Posted Thursday at 21:32 Sam Barrott is the referee. Sounds new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted Thursday at 21:34 Share Posted Thursday at 21:34 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: This has whats disappointed me most so far about Ayew. For the most 0art he's looked weak given his supposed prowess at thus, he's also barely got near a man to close down either. Looks several weeks off full fitness which surely isn't the case. I thought against Everton he looked like one of our better players. Admittedly not saying much. But he keeps the ball very well and gets us further up field. Usually to win a free kick. I can see why Cooper rates him so much. I think he's perfect for a scrap, which I couldn't say about the more glamorous names we had last time we were in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted Thursday at 21:40 Share Posted Thursday at 21:40 1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said: He’s not going to get sacked after a loss at Arsenal, no matter how brutal it is. And we might just need the goal difference at the end of the season. We’ll fight them hard on Saturday and lose narrowly. Cooper will get his run of winnable games to prove himself. The rest is up to him. Haha, I admire your optimism, it’s going to be a bloodbath…… 6-0 at the very least. Cooper won’t win a single game with us, he is done in my opinion, it’s just a case of when he goes, not if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted Thursday at 21:52 Share Posted Thursday at 21:52 14 minutes ago, Gamble92 said: I thought against Everton he looked like one of our better players. Admittedly not saying much. But he keeps the ball very well and gets us further up field. Usually to win a free kick. I can see why Cooper rates him so much. I think he's perfect for a scrap, which I couldn't say about the more glamorous names we had last time we were in the Premier League. It was Everton I was particularly unimpressed with him. Was marginally better vs Palace. 1st half vs Everton he was brushed off the ball twice very easily and he was constantly nowhere near any Everton player when they got on the ball. He got involved a bit more 2nd half and that control and shot over the top was almost Yakubuesque vs Derby but if ever a performance didn't warrant the full 90 when the bench options had pace to attack a 39 year old out of position it was last weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Fox Posted Thursday at 22:01 Share Posted Thursday at 22:01 5 hours ago, StriderHiryu said: Here's my match preview. I expect us to park the bus, if Cooper was brave (lmao) he could try and replicate what Atalanta did and go man-for-man against Arsenal. With some of the players we have (Ndidi, Ayew, Justin), I think there's an argument for it working. Warnock did it with Huddersfield against us last season and it almost worked. It of course carries risk, but so does sitting with a 541 hoping to hold out... If we sit in we'll get pumped. We're too prone to errors in the back line and the players for whatever reason don't seem to have the ability to transition like they did last season. I fear we'll see the 9 dropping deeper and deeper to try and get a sniff, and just be plain outplayed in the middle. Not that we wouldn't get pumped if we started our young pacy wingers and tried to take it to them, but at least we might have a chance of scoring. The silver lining is if we go down by 6 or 7, maybe Cooper will get his P45 after we lose at home to Bournemouth. Last season we were all waiting for things to click and us utterly demolish someone. Right now it's waiting for a decent side to properly put us to the sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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