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Player revolt…

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iancognito

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2 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

It's pretty obvious Vesty has had a fall out. No surprise there. He's an uber self-assured individual and I'd guess has a high opinion of himself..

 

Ricky is clearly going down the passive aggressive route of being a model pro. Less said the better. Damned by what you don't say..

 

Mavididi can barely conceal his contempt at the end of games. 

 

Winks' body language is all wrong, continually having to give mid game coaching sessions to the rest of the team. Mads too. 

 

 

Vesty will be asking the same question as when Rodgers signed him - why sign me then not play me?

 

You can see with all of them they're not happy, whether that's the manager of just the not winning it's hard to tell.

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14 minutes ago, breadandcheesebrother said:

Potter, Southgate, or that QPR manager who did well for them last season. Only likely ones I can think of. 

absolutely no reason coberan wouldn’t be attainable if we move quickly. He can can take a chance on getting west brom up with a worse squad than ours, or he can hop over to a team currently not in the relegation zone. I think now that the psr situation is resolved there would be much more interest.  Shame we wasted a transfer window though 

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5 hours ago, dooflip said:

Reading reports of a player revolt.

 

Hopefully the end is nigh.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/steve-cooper-nears-leicester-mutiny-as-player-doubts-have-intensified-report/ar-AA1r7spi

i think theres truth in this, listening to pipes report at weekend and fryatt yesterday, i think they were hinting at this in some of the things they've said 

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53 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

absolutely no reason coberan wouldn’t be attainable if we move quickly. He can can take a chance on getting west brom up with a worse squad than ours, or he can hop over to a team currently not in the relegation zone. I think now that the psr situation is resolved there would be much more interest.  Shame we wasted a transfer window though 

But you'd hope Coberan working with these group of players sees enough in them to stay up. I don't think we've recruited badly, the issue is Cooper seems to think Ayew is a starter ahead of Fatawu or Mavididi, our striker situation is a problem but we don't have the finances to spend £40m on a 15/20 goal a season striker. Justin ahead of RP etc. 

 

The whole team need to be coached properly and we should escape the drop

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By all accounts he’s a good coach so if there is a revolt, what is it down to?

 

Negative tactics?

Poor team selection and use of subs?

Exclusion of Ricardo?

Criticism of squad depth and then failing to use bench when players brought in?

Refusal to give game time to Alves, Mcateer etc? 
All of the above? 

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Some people really are clutching at straws re this......player revolt really?  no viable proof whatsoever.........so blinkered by the facts of wanting Cooper gone spread any old rubbish something may stick....As if Piper or Fryatt seriously know what's going on at the club.

 

Corberan ain't coming fact.  Potter, that ship has sailed he is holding out for a bigger club, Moyes and Southgate no thanks.  Who is there?  Hell knows.

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5 hours ago, James_lcfc said:

I did feel some of the body language around the players and Cooper seemed a bit off last night, but I thought it was me reading too much into it.

 

That article does not quote a very reliable source though, so it's more than likely BS.

Honestly the body language was apparent even in pre-season. The best two to look at are Harry Winks and Ricardo. Winks has looked like a close relative died whenever he plays. He's gone from a player that looked rejuvinated and delighted to play football again, to the one that was frozen out by Conte and had to leave Spurs on loan. And that's despite the fact that he's in the starting XI!

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2 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Honestly the body language was apparent even in pre-season. The best two to look at are Harry Winks and Ricardo. Winks has looked like a close relative died whenever he plays. He's gone from a player that looked rejuvinated and delighted to play football again, to the one that was frozen out by Conte and had to leave Spurs on loan. And that's despite the fact that he's in the starting XI!

You've got 3 players in particular who were given specialist roles within the team, and arguably the most important in terms of the system last season, in Vestergaard, Winks and Ricardo who have all been either dropped or had the roles removed. It's no wonder players are despondent.

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3 minutes ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

By all accounts he’s a good coach so if there is a revolt, what is it down to?

 

Negative tactics?

Poor team selection and use of subs?

Exclusion of Ricardo?

Criticism of squad depth and then failing to use bench when players brought in?

Refusal to give game time to Alves, Mcateer etc? 
All of the above? 

Is he? This is a myth that keeps getting pushed out there with very little to back it up. He got Forest into the playoffs, and some dodgy referring helped them through. That's it. 

 

Other than that there is little to provide any credence that he is any good coaching at this level. His PL time at Forest was a sh1tshow, especially when you consider the resources given to him. The excuses for this still niggle me (too many players, hard to find the right balance), but the reality is that he wasn't good enough to get a tune out of that team. Their away form (worryingly) stank, his PL record is about as good as Dot Cotton could manage. 

 

Apparently he has some sort of youth coach credential, but there is nothing to back up that he has the skills to promote youth to the first team. The Walsall game is another cracking example of this, with out hottest prospect sidelined by players who barely want to be here.

 

The 'nice bloke' line gets used a lot, not that it really means anything, nor has anyone dealt with him to know if its true. 

 

My Forest supporting mate used to tell me there was a rumour that he would tell players they were out of the squad via Whatsapp. I've nothing to tangibly back it up, but like the player revolt rumour, sometimes there is no smoke without fire, and if its true, it will highlight he is a poor man manager as well.

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10 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Honestly the body language was apparent even in pre-season. The best two to look at are Harry Winks and Ricardo. Winks has looked like a close relative died whenever he plays. He's gone from a player that looked rejuvinated and delighted to play football again, to the one that was frozen out by Conte and had to leave Spurs on loan. And that's despite the fact that he's in the starting XI!

I can't remember if it was the Spurs or Villa game (sure it was the latter) but when an opposing player was down injured Cooper signalled over to Winks to send a message to Vardy. When Winks spoke to Vardy, Vard waved his arms in the air and looked visibly pissed off, and then went to argue with the ref. Felt clear to me that the message was to give some needle to the official and Vardy didn't really want to do it. 

 

Agree - the body language is way off. Even Coady, who is full to the brim with leadership quality, has his head down with slumped shoulders. Something is way, way off from where it should be in that squad.

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13 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Honestly the body language was apparent even in pre-season. The best two to look at are Harry Winks and Ricardo. Winks has looked like a close relative died whenever he plays. He's gone from a player that looked rejuvinated and delighted to play football again, to the one that was frozen out by Conte and had to leave Spurs on loan. And that's despite the fact that he's in the starting XI!

You aren’t always going to get a manager that plays 100% to your strengths like Enzo did for Winks. 
Maybe showing some of his limitations then if he’s not as willing to adapt to a new managers ideas. 

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True or not, there's a clear disconnect at the club. The body languages are all wrong, the attitudes are flagging, the performances lacking.

 

Cooper would've been a poor Championship appointment and has brought in that level of coaching. Then he signs a bunch of below par journeymen. No wonder the players are going WTF.

 

But he's exactly what the club deserves. If anything sums up a club owned by Top and being part run by Rudkin then having Cooper as manager is it: amateur, incompetent, gutless.

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