Will The Board Ever Admit They Might Be Wrong?

[Stuntman_Mike]

DU DU DUU, FAILURE IS AN ORPHAN

[The boy Linacre]

No they won't, they generally don't communicate with the fans and when they do, get it wrong.  e.g. digital tickets etc and then the £25 "donation".

They took us down (Rodgers should have gone earlier & they can't count) and I always said it would knock us back 5 years, we're in year 2, BUT they HAVE to stay up or it will be 7-8 years, in fact I could see him selling up if we go down again.

This team has probably got the quality to stay up but it will be tight, they need to make the right decisions at the right time if it is going wrong unlike waiting till mid March last time.

Top I presume let Rudkin bring the rubbish in on massive contracts e.g. Bertrand, Soumare, Vesty & more, that is what we are stuck with & not good enough quality to keep us competing at the level we had been at.

[DezFox]

On 25/09/2024 at 20:58, Royston. said:

I think they think they are beyond reproach after the title win.

 

As for this season, everyone at the club knew this season was going to be a shit show so we are probably fairing better than they expected, manager struggling with a limited squad, awful 3rd round cup performance but we still went through to the next round, new signings bedding in etc

Completely disagree. I actually don’t think this squad is as limited as you and Steve think it is. Under the right manager we should stay up comfortably in my opinion. Still bottom half but stay up. If they open their eyes they will realise that it’s not going to get better, there is lack of plan, direction and ideas to build on. This short sighted game by game view from the board is probably why we are where we are. 

Edited Thursday at 21:38 by DezFox

[oz was my hero]

5 hours ago, Lako42 said:

So tell me how the supporter base has held them accountable for the above and ensured they are not above reproach? 

 

 

Unfortunately you can't, because our wider supporter base will let them do whatever they want. 

 

Tell me about it. Been arguing with them on a Facebook site. Kpfc are untouchable along with any manager or player. And to argue with them means you're not a supporter. 

[ealingfox]

6 hours ago, Stadt said:

Losing face is more embarrassing in Asian culture than in the western world. We’ve always been told “respect is a big thing in Thailand” on here so we have to put up with eastern mysticism. 
 

Top is either negligent or incompetent and for that reason I wish he’d sell up.

 

You'd think one's endeavours failing would cause the loss of more face and therefore more embarrassment than getting rid of the people that are causing your endeavours to fail.

[Viva]

16 hours ago, Parafox said:

Personally, I doubt it because admission suggests failure.

 

Clearly they're have been many poor judgements over the last 2-3 seasons but nobody has taken responsibility. Why?

 

Are they cowards? Why are they hiding away and not giving us any information?

 

If they've made mistakes, surely it's the honourable thing to do to admit it and try to make things better instead of bulldozing ahead with no one holding their hands up.

 

Myself, I'd have much more faith if the board either collectively or via a spokesperson, said there have been mistakes and that things were being reflected on and action taken. That would allay some fears for our future.

 

 

Would you like them to give us a summary after each match of exactly what they are thinking? I'm not sure what information you are after?

We are on the back of a great season in the Championship and are in the very early stages of this season, currently outside of the relegation zone. 

[Elsie Effcee]

Next time [whenever that might be] they should only appoint  managers on a trial basis.   If the results are satisfactory after so many games and if the fans and players feel happy, then they can make it more permanent.  At the moment choice is mostly based on reputation at different clubs, availability and cost.  Football teams are unique and need handling differently imo.  It's a case of 'horses for courses'    The board backed the wrong one this time. 

[iancognito]

8 hours ago, Vazman said:

They are beyond reproach, we are just existing as a football club, from what we were:

 

1. No ambition 

2. Poor decisions on contracts / players wages.

3. A review shrouded in secrecy when we relegated but seemingly no one held to account over it.

4. Same people in the same positions too long, to comfortable, happy to go down the easy route (Hence the financial mess) to easy to pay more to retain dross or bring in final payday quality players that no one else wanted.

5. Rudkin who appears totally beyond reproach, seemingly can do no wrong.

 

Summary:

 

From best run club, to one of the worst, in a relatively short timeframe, with the same people in charge, tells you everything you need to know. The title win was amazing, as was the FA Cup happy to have witnessed it, but doubt on current trajectory we will ever see the likes of this again anytime soon 

We used to laugh at clubs that were run like this - and in the last few years too.

 

We had 7 or 8 years where United, Villa, Spurs, Newcastle and others were all in that "transition" period - and we had a chance to put a marker down and be up there. We blew it and now we're back to square one. The club know it but carry on regardless.

[Stadt]

4 hours ago, ealingfox said:

 

You'd think one's endeavours failing would cause the loss of more face and therefore more embarrassment than getting rid of the people that are causing your endeavours to fail.

That requires the bare minimum of introspection. It’s the emperor’s new clothes around Top I think.

[HankMarvin]

Rudkin probably isn’t seen as a failure by Top, he probably suggested Maresca and navigated a promotion on the back of all the financial restrictions (arguably down to him) that could’ve gone wrong. 
Plus on his CV he has a Premier league win, and a FA cup win. 
The clubs most successful period for “little old Leicester”.
If he didn’t get the bullet when we were relegated it’s wishful thinking it will be anytime soon.

Edited Friday at 00:18 by HankMarvin

[Guppys Love Child]

10 hours ago, Lako42 said:

So tell me how the supporter base has held them accountable for the above and ensured they are not above reproach? 

 

 

Unfortunately you can't, because our wider supporter base will let them do whatever they want. 

 

Spot on.

 

Most at the ground still see it as a "good day out", whilst us so and so's see it a whole lot differently and we are sadly in the minority 

[Parafox]

5 hours ago, Viva said:

Would you like them to give us a summary after each match of exactly what they are thinking? I'm not sure what information you are after?

We are on the back of a great season in the Championship and are in the very early stages of this season, currently outside of the relegation zone. 

 

Don't be daft.

 

What I would like is some transparency over the clubs finances. Without that, comes doubt and speculation, albeit often misguided. 

 

I would like the fans to know the reasoning behind appointing Cooper when the majority, clearly excluding you, knew before he got here how it would likely pan out. If fans could see it why couldn't board? What's he got that put him above other, better candidates? And if he was the best the club could afford, why not say so? I think we know in our gut why Cooper came here so it wouldn't be a big deal to say he fitted the bill in terms of cost vs potential.

 

I would like to know why we have bought the players we have over the summer. Again, I believe knowledgeable supporters will have a decent insight. Not one that I have seen so far has convinced me that it was money well spent. 

 

To address your final sentence, you tell me where you think we'll be after Christmas.

[dorsetboy]

ive read we have already took advance payment on the kdh transfer from the bank to help us through the season so im guessing funds must be very close to crossing the psr failure again

[Pita]

The board are only accountable to king power as it’s their money. 

[Viva]

2 hours ago, Parafox said:

 

Don't be daft.

 

What I would like is some transparency over the clubs finances. Without that, comes doubt and speculation, albeit often misguided. 

 

I would like the fans to know the reasoning behind appointing Cooper when the majority, clearly excluding you, knew before he got here how it would likely pan out. If fans could see it why couldn't board? What's he got that put him above other, better candidates? And if he was the best the club could afford, why not say so? I think we know in our gut why Cooper came here so it wouldn't be a big deal to say he fitted the bill in terms of cost vs potential.

 

I would like to know why we have bought the players we have over the summer. Again, I believe knowledgeable supporters will have a decent insight. Not one that I have seen so far has convinced me that it was money well spent. 

 

To address your final sentence, you tell me where you think we'll be after Christmas.

Was you one of the ones that wanted Enzo sacked last season when we was top? If the board had followed the FoxesTalk forum then, it’s highly likely we would be struggling in the Championship still under a transfer embargo having bought nobody in the summer. A club can’t make its decisions based on a fans forum! Come on! 
 

You are talking as if it’s a fact that hiring Copper was a mistake? Last time I checked the table, we were outside the relegation zone which as I’ve said many times would be a success this season. 
 

So you also want a detailed report from the board on why we sign players that you have clearly written off after only 5 matches? You need to get into the real world. This will never happen at any club in football. 
 

You would also like us to spell out to the world exactly how much money we have left to spend this season, or how much money we need to raise before the end of June? Yeah I can see that will really strengthen our negotiating hand when buying or selling players! 
 

If we are 17th or above at Christmas I’ll be happy. 

 

[The Doctor]

2 hours ago, dorsetboy said:

ive read we have already took advance payment on the kdh transfer from the bank to help us through the season so im guessing funds must be very close to crossing the psr failure again

not how that works, its essentially a payday loan they've taken out to free up cash flow for something 

[CosbehFox]

59 minutes ago, Pita said:

The board are only accountable to king power as it’s their money. 

I’d used to get pissed off with this kind of nonsense until I realised we are all just zombies in a mad world 

Edited Thursday at 21:32 by CosbehFox

[Parafox]

23 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

1) Does it actually matter,

 

2) does it change anything? 

1) Yes.

 

2) It should. But they don't care, therefore it won't, unfortunately.

[ozleicester]

I sometimes feel the anger at our board/owners/people in charge is like the demand for VAR et al.

The glorious uncertainty of sport is that you dont know how each pass, shot, game or season will go.

Its not AI people, uncertainty is what makes it great

[eblair]

Do managers have probation periods?

[Collymore]

9 hours ago, Viva said:

Was you one of the ones that wanted Enzo sacked last season when we was top? If the board had followed the FoxesTalk forum then, it’s highly likely we would be struggling in the Championship still under a transfer embargo having bought nobody in the summer. A club can’t make its decisions based on a fans forum! Come on! 

Yeah I'd have sacked Enzo last season during that time and still would have. It amazes me still the amount of people who think that winning the Championship was some sort of massive achievement! I remember seeing the odds at the start of that season and to get promoted we were similar odds to say Norris winning the next grand prix he's taking part in or Man City beating Newcastle on Saturday. Cooper would have got us promoted last season I'm sure. 

 

Enzo really was stubborn and inflexible and we were lucky Leeds, Ipswich and Southampton all seemed to go off the boil at the same time otherwise Enzo would have been out of work now and we'd be travelling to Plymouth tomorrow.  Clever bloke. Knew that he couldn't continue to play his way in the Premier League with us and wasn't going to change his philosophy. He's perfectly matched with Chelsea in my opinion. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Viva]

6 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Yeah I'd have sacked Enzo last season during that time and still would have. It amazes me still the amount of people who think that winning the Championship was some sort of massive achievement! I remember seeing the odds at the start of that season and to get promoted we were similar odds to say Norris winning the next grand prix he's taking part in or Man City beating Newcastle on Saturday. Cooper would have got us promoted last season I'm sure. 

 

Enzo really was stubborn and inflexible and we were lucky Leeds, Ipswich and Southampton all seemed to go off the boil at the same time otherwise Enzo would have been out of work now and we'd be travelling to Plymouth tomorrow.  Clever bloke. Knew that he couldn't continue to play his way in the Premier League with us and wasn't going to change his philosophy. He's perfectly matched with Chelsea in my opinion. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We were around 5/1 to win the Championship, so about a 16% chance. Certainly not nailed on at all. 
The disruption of sacking Enzo, no doubt having a caretaker for a game or two and then hiring someone like Dean Smith could easily have meant we finished outside the top two. We’ll never know though. 

What we do know for a fact is that we wouldn’t have made £10m profit by Enzo leaving and would also have had to pay him and his team off. So imagine we’d have been nearly £20m down. 

[SemperEadem]

Having seen slightly move of the inner workings of the club through being part of a supporter group, you do really get the vibe that those higher up largely dislike the fanbase.

[Viva]

1 minute ago, SemperEadem said:

Having seen slightly move of the inner workings of the club through being part of a supporter group, you do really get the vibe that those higher up largely dislike the fanbase.

I’m not surprised, especially if they read this forum! 

[SpacedX]

On 25/09/2024 at 21:30, Gamble92 said:

****in hell this got a bit deep for this football forum

...Or more accurately.