Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[jayfox26]

28 minutes ago, trooky said:

The players need to turn on themselves, they can't keep blaming the manager.

 

They need to take responsibility for this shit especially after the videos taking the piss out of Cooper during the Xmas Party. 

Yep but I don't think they care enough. They are getting their nice pay packets and daily access to a luxury spa

[Filbert Fireworks]

Ruuds first game west ham 3-1 and our best result of the season was a lineup that saw Faes dropped with a Vesty Coady CB pair which worked until Mads was injured  in the newcastle debacle then Ndidi shortly after. 

 

The front 4 was Vardy Facundo Bilal Mcateer which we haven't seen since. 

 

Interesting RVN never ever went back to this lineup again with every player currently fit. 

 

 

[Dmitry]

1 hour ago, jayfox26 said:

 

Surprised the players haven't turned on Ruud or maybe none of them actually give a fck anymore. 

Imagine yourself making a couple of millions per year, being a functioning adult and fully realizing you are worse than almost every one of your direct opponents in almost every single match you play. Would You turn on your manager OR quietly wait till the end of your contract, so you won't ever have to get a "real job" in your life?

 

Any perceptive fan will notice that the only LCFC player who gets visibly upset and even angry is our keeper...because he is a quality footballer and a mensch.

[Fox92]

12 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

Ruuds first game west ham 3-1 and our best result of the season was a lineup that saw Faes dropped with a Vesty Coady CB pair which worked until Mads was injured  in the newcastle debacle then Ndidi shortly after. 

 

The front 4 was Vardy Facundo Bilal Mcateer which we haven't seen since. 

 

Interesting RVN never ever went back to this lineup again with every player currently fit. 

 

 

West Ham battered us that game. A better team would have scored at least 3 goals.

[TonyN11]

2 hours ago, -sodapop said:

 

Disappointing...I know we were more than capable of turning those couple of wins into draws 

[kingpower]

1 minute ago, TonyN11 said:

Disappointing...I know we were more than capable of turning those couple of wins into draws 

Yet the guy still has a job!? Fking disgraceful

[Filbert Fireworks]

4 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

West Ham battered us that game. A better team would have scored at least 3 goals.

They did it was a strange watch. We did score goals though now we just do the battered bit. 

[foxgas]

I was pretty ambivalent till he started playing the two left backs, who we don't think are good enough for the Premier league, in the starting eleven. It's like he's asking to be sacked. Sad times.

 

[Dan]

17 hours ago, moore_94 said:

We also had a 2 week break, lost to Palace, and then sacked Puel

 

They really are idiots

 that's the last three managers they've sacked and they've done it straight after a great opportunity to do so.

 

That really is remarkable, even for this lot. You really wouldn't bet against them doing it a fourth time.

[Mickyblueeyes]

21 hours ago, moore_94 said:

We also had a 2 week break, lost to Palace, and then sacked Puel

 

They really are idiots

The thing is, even if they sacked him today, they wouldn’t start the search until the moment they decided to sack him. The last manager we had ready to step in was Rodgers, done very quickly - however, it was a manager who was linked heavily with us while Vichai was still alive. Very likely highlighted at the time and tapped up. There were rumours that the West Ham game was likely Puel’s last had the unthinkable not happen. 
 

Not only are they idiots in their decision making. They’re idiots, incompetent, reckless in their forward planning post action. 

[winteriscoming]

You just know clubs like Brighton and Bournemouth have plans in place if players go or the manager goes. If Araolo goes Spurs in the summer Bournemouth will have someone lined up to replace him.  
We don’t plan. We are reactive instead of being proactive. 

[Vazman]

6 hours ago, Dan said:

 that's the last three managers they've sacked and they've done it straight after a great opportunity to do so.

 

That really is remarkable, even for this lot. You really wouldn't bet against them doing it a fourth time.

That's because they use the break to find the replacement, they don't look ahead more than 2 weeks at a time, there 12 month wall planner has nothing on it after 2 weeks, they probably won't have a clue who we are playing in 4 weeks time if you asked Top or Rudders today 

[dmayne7]

11 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

You just know clubs like Brighton and Bournemouth have plans in place if players go or the manager goes. If Araolo goes Spurs in the summer Bournemouth will have someone lined up to replace him.  
We don’t plan. We are reactive instead of being proactive. 

 Who?

[winteriscoming]

33 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

 Who?

I meant Iraola. 😂 

 

 

[snoopy87]

49 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

 Who?

In time like these, just remember this guy when trying to figure out the name and what it should sound like

[winteriscoming]

How the fvck is he still here? 

[teblin]

I've resigned myself that he's here to stay until the end of the season. But then I am reminded record he has and am blown away how bad it is and that he hasn't been sacked.

[RedSoxUK]

Is it still ere?

[AjcW]

1 minute ago, RedSoxUK said:

Is it still ere?

Surprised you haven't been banned  

[Filbert Fireworks]

Still here what a joke 

[Les-TA-Jon]

How many times must it be explained? 

 

We don't know much about the club's accounting/PSR situation or RVN's contract. 

 

Obviously any manager presiding over such terrible results 'should' be sacked. 

 

But most people seem to want him sacked as a punitive form of catharsis. But what does that actually achieve right now? 

• We are 95% down anyway
• Sacking him now, leaves us with even less experienced hodge podge of coaches in charge
• The club will likely not be in a position to appoint the next permanent manager now / before the season ends
• Even if they were, we don't want the next guy tainted with this season or going into next season with terrible results/form 
• Maybe the club can't 'afford' to sack RVN in this accounting period? 
• Maybe we have a break clause or much reduced compensation in RVN's contract if relegation is confirmed? 

[Kitchandro]

18 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

How many times must it be explained? 

 

We don't know much about the club's accounting/PSR situation or RVN's contract. 

 

Obviously any manager presiding over such terrible results 'should' be sacked. 

 

But most people seem to want him sacked as a punitive form of catharsis. But what does that actually achieve right now? 

• We are 95% down anyway
• Sacking him now, leaves us with even less experienced hodge podge of coaches in charge
• The club will likely not be in a position to appoint the next permanent manager now / before the season ends
• Even if they were, we don't want the next guy tainted with this season or going into next season with terrible results/form 
• Maybe the club can't 'afford' to sack RVN in this accounting period? 
• Maybe we have a break clause or much reduced compensation in RVN's contract if relegation is confirmed? 

We weren’t 95% down a few weeks ago when he could also have been sacked. So it’s a weak argument. 

 

If we are down, and the manager we have is completely irrelevant, put him on gardening leave (or whatever it is), and we’ll just have the team run by, well, literally anyone. Give it to Andy King, give it to a fan, let the players run it democratically. If the players are so bad that they can’t possibly be coached better than this, as is regularly suggested on here, why bother having a manager?

 

The reason he should have been sacked already is because yes, we should have some pride. It cannot possibly get any worse. It’s impossible. A club without pride has no worth whatsoever, it then merely exists as a business and is therefore meaningless as a sporting and community entity. Because local sporting institutions are about pride and competitiveness.

 

In any case, a professional football club worth so many millions should be trying, not giving up. That’s what I expect. 
 

Sack the guy out of principle. Because you care and have standards. That’s a very good reason to do something in any context.

Edited 19 March by Kitchandro

[Les-TA-Jon]

9 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

We weren’t 95% down a few weeks ago when he could also have been sacked. So it’s a weak argument. 

 

If we are down, and the manager we have is completely irrelevant, put him on gardening leave (or whatever it is), and we’ll just have the team run by, well, literally anyone. Give it to Andy King, give it to a fan, let the players run it democratically. If the players are so bad that they can’t possibly be coached better than this, as is regularly suggested on here, why bother having a manager?

 

The reason he should have been sacked already is because yes, we should have some pride. It cannot possibly get any worse. It’s impossible. A club without pride has no worth whatsoever, it then merely exists as a business and is therefore meaningless as a sporting and community entity. Because local sporting institutions are about pride and competitiveness.

 

In any case, a professional football club worth so many millions should be trying, not giving up. That’s what I expect. 
 

Sack the guy out of principle. Because you care and have standards. That’s a very good reason to do something in any context.

I don't particularly disagree. 

 

But what if sacking him now costs the club £Xm, but sacking him later costs £X-Ym and the club believe we're down either way, then they're obviously looking to save £££. Maybe PSR even means we need to

 

Obviously if that is the situation, it's more evidence for the shambles that is the board/running of the club - but it is a reason to keep RVN. 

[kenny]

2 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

How many times must it be explained? 

 

We don't know much about the club's accounting/PSR situation or RVN's contract. 

 

Obviously any manager presiding over such terrible results 'should' be sacked. 

 

But most people seem to want him sacked as a punitive form of catharsis. But what does that actually achieve right now? 

• We are 95% down anyway
• Sacking him now, leaves us with even less experienced hodge podge of coaches in charge
• The club will likely not be in a position to appoint the next permanent manager now / before the season ends
• Even if they were, we don't want the next guy tainted with this season or going into next season with terrible results/form 
• Maybe the club can't 'afford' to sack RVN in this accounting period? 
• Maybe we have a break clause or much reduced compensation in RVN's contract if relegation is confirmed? 

If we are down and that is an accepted fact then we should be planning for next season and starting to give minutes to players that will be here. 

 

This would include:

 

Skipp - 8th most expensive signing...

Monga

Evans

Thomas

Okoli

Coulibaly

Braybrook

Stolarcyzk

Golding

McAteer

Cartwright

 

 

Might as well give up on

Buonanotte

Kristiansen

Soumare

 

If he doesn't want to help the club develop the players ready for next year then he may as well be placed on gardening leave now and let the coaching team take over with the emphasis on the Championship players.

 

 

 

[DJW1]

I think that he should go (sacked or "amicable parting of the ways") at the end of the season as we are going down with him or with another manager. I can´t see his heart being in it  facing 46 games in the Championship.

We need a manager with experience and success at Championship or League 1 level. We need him in place in May, to influence signings and have a full pre-season (with a pre-season tour in the UK, not flying around the world for "glamour" friendlies).