Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[st albans fox]

Real Madrid may need a new coach soon ……..  ex player surely in the frame ???

[st albans fox]

Just now, ronnup said:

Very rarely ITK, but I know someone who works in Football, and apparently he wants to go but wants a pay off and Top is digging his heels in. Make of that what you will 

Don’t need to be poirot to come up with that scenario …….

[brookfox]

Really starting to regret buying all those black cashmere roll neck jumpers.

[HarryDee8]

How is he still here 😂😂

 

Maybe we're stuck with him for life!

[don_danbury]

54 minutes ago, ronnup said:

Very rarely ITK, but I know someone who works in Football, and apparently he wants to go but wants a pay off and Top is digging his heels in. Make of that what you will 

how come? he's doing a fantastic job

[ACF]

4 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Interestingly Borson felt and feels like we failed PSR for 23/24 by a long away and definitely wouldn’t have got the 83m cap and thinks we failed or were close to failing and something will come out when the appeal for 22/23 is done.

 

I don’t buy this, but I do think we were close and we’re in trouble again this year, hence the no transfers and not sacking Ruud.

 

If we actually did fail, it would be absolutely stupid to not admit it at this point, and just cop the deduction. We’re already down. 

[Gamble92]

57 minutes ago, ACF said:

I don’t buy this, but I do think we were close and we’re in trouble again this year, hence the no transfers and not sacking Ruud.

 

If we actually did fail, it would be absolutely stupid to not admit it at this point, and just cop the deduction. We’re already down. 

Wouldn't it just come off next season regardless now?

[lgfualol]

I was going to ask how he is still employed then I remembered the people running the club. We need to see the back of some of these people when we go down.

[teblin]

9 hours ago, ronnup said:

Very rarely ITK, but I know someone who works in Football, and apparently he wants to go but wants a pay off and Top is digging his heels in. Make of that what you will 

If true, which sounds about right, put him on gardening leave and let King or someone else within the club already run the team until the end of the season. 

 

I think money must be the only reasons he's still here.

 

I don't have too much of an issue with him wanting his pay off or some kind of payoff, the club gave him the contract. Just hope they can do a deal that doesn't do us too much more damage than has already happened.

[Richard]

He'll be sacked on July 1st when the new financial year starts. Hopefully he has a relegation termination or salary clause but that would've required the tiniest amount of foresight which I doubt the hierarchy are capable of.

 

All I hope is that we are sounding out replacements now and getting that in order. 

[grth2004]

1 hour ago, lgfualol said:

I was going to ask how he is still employed then I remembered the people running the club. We need to see the back of some of these people when we go down.

The only reason he’s still at the club now is because of money 💰 I’d guess we’re stuck with him until the end of the season at least which is soul destroying for everyone. 

[lgfualol]

5 minutes ago, Richard said:

He'll be sacked on July 1st when the new financial year starts. Hopefully he has a relegation termination or salary clause but that would've required the tiniest amount of foresight which I doubt the hierarchy are capable of.

 

All I hope is that we are sounding out replacements now and getting that in order. 

What do you mean, replacements will be sounded out on July 15th after Rudders gets back from his hols

[teblin]

12 minutes ago, Richard said:

He'll be sacked on July 1st when the new financial year starts. Hopefully he has a relegation termination or salary clause but that would've required the tiniest amount of foresight which I doubt the hierarchy are capable of.

 

All I hope is that we are sounding out replacements now and getting that in order. 

I think they'll do a deal to get rid before then, but not pay the money until then or spilit between this and next year.

[RowlattsFox]

Are manager pay offs one of the most annoying things about football? I get why, but always feels like its a reward for being shit. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

33 minutes ago, Richard said:

He'll be sacked on July 1st when the new financial year starts. Hopefully he has a relegation termination or salary clause but that would've required the tiniest amount of foresight which I doubt the hierarchy are capable of.

 

All I hope is that we are sounding out replacements now and getting that in order. 

Keeping him here until 1st July will be disastrous, we need a new manager to be well into the job by then. We've got a huge job ahead of us in the summer, can't be giving a new manager 5 weeks until the first game to sort it all out.

[Richard]

45 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Keeping him here until 1st July will be disastrous, we need a new manager to be well into the job by then. We've got a huge job ahead of us in the summer, can't be giving a new manager 5 weeks until the first game to sort it all out.

Is it worth a points deduction for failing PSR though? Looking at our business in January, it's clear we will be very tight again. 

 

I agree but I don't think it's that simple

[Reg Vardy]

Have to say club can't be right for being wrong here...if we sack him and pay him we are wrong, if we keep him and sack him with no payment in July (not 100% certain) we are wrong.....it is an absolutely sh*t situation, that we have created ourselves.....but then 95% of people on here wanted Cooper gone, most thought Van Nistelroy was a "decent " appointment, clearly the club (and most of us) got it wrong.

We need to fire him......

It is clear (Currently Winks, Skipp, Vesty, Ayew, BDR, Casey, Mavadidi not getting a look in-  have all obviously fallen out......) the dressing room are royally ****ed off with him....get him gone!

On the day I need to make my season ticket decision.....so much to look forward to!!

[Tuna]

As if he's actually going to do a presser

[Wortho]

19 minutes ago, Richard said:

Is it worth a points deduction for failing PSR though? Looking at our business in January, it's clear we will be very tight again. 

 

I agree but I don't think it's that simple

Can’t we sell our women’s team to ourselves. Chelsea got £200m for the their one 😂😂

This is why this PSR is complete nonsense.

[K789]

1 minute ago, Wortho said:

Can’t we sell our women’s team to ourselves. Chelsea got £200m for the their one 😂😂

This is why this PSR is complete nonsense.

As kieran maguire says anyone who has a women's team on the books and is close to psr should be selling

[Spudulike]

7 minutes ago, Reg Vardy said:

Have to say club can't be right for being wrong here...if we sack him and pay him we are wrong, if we keep him and sack him with no payment in July (not 100% certain) we are wrong.....it is an absolutely sh*t situation, that we have created ourselves.....but then 95% of people on here wanted Cooper gone, most thought Van Nistelroy was a "decent " appointment, clearly the club (and most of us) got it wrong.

We need to fire him......

It is clear (Currently Winks, Skipp, Vesty, Ayew, BDR, Casey, Mavadidi not getting a look in-  have all obviously fallen out......) the dressing room are royally ****ed off with him....get him gone!

On the day I need to make my season ticket decision.....so much to look forward to!!

I think that most were just glad that he wasn't SFC and did the mental gymnastics to convince themselves it was a risk worth taking. Not forgetting that we were heavily linked with OGS and that appointment wouldn't have surprised anyone given our owners penchant for a 'name'.

[Bilo]

19 minutes ago, K789 said:

As kieran maguire says anyone who has a women's team on the books and is close to psr should be selling

Sell the women's team to ourselves this season, give the new boss an obscene war chest to get promoted, and then do the same with Seagrave at the end of next season to throw funds at staying up. Pussyfooting about with PSR just condemns us to yo-yoing. The big clubs play the game, and Forest just straight laughed at it.

Edited 9 April by Bilo

[RoboFox]

23 minutes ago, Tuna said:

As if he's actually going to do a presser

Good. Compound the humiliation. 

[Paninistickers]

16 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

I think that most were just glad that he wasn't SFC and did the mental gymnastics to convince themselves it was a risk worth taking. Not forgetting that we were heavily linked with OGS and that appointment wouldn't have surprised anyone given our owners penchant for a 'name'.

OGS wouldn't have been a bad shout. I said so at the time.

 

He's a trained, professional manager. He's done some miles and is battle hardened. 

 

And, it would've kept the cuckold Top satisfied. 

[Chelmofox]

We have to do something. This cant continue. We are down, so need to put the wheels in motion now to prepare for next season.

 

I don't expect us to announce a new manager until after the season is over, but we need to get Ruud out and let the rest of the staff focus man management, future planning and starting to get our future culture correct. 

 

Losing, and not scoring, has become a habit and we need to address this, especially with the winnable games coming before the end of the season. Last relegation, Smith had us battling, scoring and getting points. We are doing neither, and its a dangerous trend to take into a Championship pre season, which comes along pretty quickly.

 

We need to weed out the current malaise, which has been caused by Ruuds complete incompetence, and focus our energies on the players who are going to be part of our plans in the Championship. So I would:

 

• Put Ruud in some bullsh1t desk job role until the end of the season, if sacking is an issue. 
• Promote Brian Barry-Murphy and King until the end of the season. 
• Stop playing anyone who doesnt form part of next seasons plans. This means no more Soumare, Daka, Viktor, Hermansen, Wilf, Facundo, Vesty, Faes, Ayew to name a few. 
• Promote any academy player deemed 'ready' to the 1st team squad (Monga, Sammy, Evans etc ).
• Task the senior players (Vardy, Winks, Coady and maybe Wilf if he is willing) with integrating and man managing the 'ready' academy players during this process.  Let Winks stay at Seagrave if he has to  
• Set targets accordingly. Look for goals in tougher games, but points against Ipswich Wolves and Southampton. Fight for some pride.

 

If they would do the above, i'll be turning up to every home game and showing my support for the new look squad.

 

Starting the same team against Brighton is surely madness.