Leicestershire County Cricket Club

[Tommy Fresh]

11 minutes ago, Graceroad said:

Swindells averages 26 in fc matches cox 27 so yep pretty similar .Only 2 years ago that Harry aveaged well over 40 in the championship

 

 

 

Doesn't really touch him in white ball though, so as I said he averages less than him in all 3 formats. I mean bringing up he averaged 40 one year isn't a ringing endorsement, considering his overall average is only 26 and having played so few games, it probably highlights how poor he's been with the bat during other campaigns.

[Graceroad]

6 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Doesn't really touch him in white ball though, so as I said he averages less than him in all 3 formats. I mean bringing up he averaged 40 one year isn't a ringing endorsement, considering his overall average is only 26 and having played so few games, it probably highlights how poor he's been with the bat during other campaigns.

You can look at it both ways 27 not a great average for someone who's played almost 150 fc matches and only 4 centuries  plus at 32 he's  unlikely to improve on that while Harry  has imo got the ability  to average mid 30s 

[Tommy Fresh]

6 minutes ago, Graceroad said:

You can look at it both ways 27 not a great average for someone who's played almost 150 fc matches and only 4 centuries  plus at 32 he's  unlikely to improve on that while Harry  has imo got the ability  to average mid 30s 

But also comfortably ahead of him in white ball, so he's definitely more competent. Can't see Swindells finishing his career with an average over 30 to be honest, although agree with the age point though.

[MaidstoneFox]

Worcs have generally batted Cox at 6 in white ball, which is probably one position too high for Swindells. He's also unlikely to be involved in the Hundred.

 

Is Swindells out of contract at the end of this season or is he looking at another season in the seconds now?

[Cakey]

It's harsh on Swindells. However his keeping is not quite good enough to average mid 20s. Cox is a brilliant keeper. Capable bat. So it's an upgrade. I think he will bat 7 for us. 

[CrawlingFox]

4 minutes ago, Cakey said:

It's harsh on Swindells. However his keeping is not quite good enough to average mid 20s. Cox is a brilliant keeper. Capable bat. So it's an upgrade. I think he will bat 7 for us. 

This is the key bit. Cox is up with Foakes as one of the top keepers in the country.

[Graceroad]

54 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

But also comfortably ahead of him in white ball, so he's definitely more competent. Can't see Swindells finishing his career with an average over 30 to be honest, although agree with the age point though.

Worth pointing out that Cox has played in a fairly competitive  side over the years big difference  coming into bat with runs on the board as opposed  to Swindells  coming in when we are 100/5 more often then not. Totally agree that Cox the better keeper

 

[Cakey]

I don't see many seam bowlers on offer presently. I think we need two, just can't see how we are going to fill the gap that is Wright. 

 

 

 

Hull Salibury and Scriven are the only three we can rely on. 

 

 

 

Need two additions in my view! Any ideas, I'm all out?

 

 

[CrawlingFox]

7 hours ago, Cakey said:

I don't see many seam bowlers on offer presently. I think we need two, just can't see how we are going to fill the gap that is Wright. 

 

 

 

Hull Salibury and Scriven are the only three we can rely on. 

 

 

 

Need two additions in my view! Any ideas, I'm all out?

 

 

I think our overseas will by necessity have to be Mulder + a bowler and agree that still leaves us needing at least one more.

 

Of those you've named in the four day games Scriven has 17 wickets at 33 this season, Salisbury 9 at 38 and Hull 8 at 55.

 

Scriven is good and with his talent like Hull will clearly keep improving so no concern there but Wright's 36 at 26 will be hard to replace.

 

For reference Finan who will still be here has 8 at 44.

 

Barnes has 2 at 102. Davis took none for 80 and Walker hasn't played. Seems unlikely all three will be here next season, the former two definitely out of contract and Walker may be to. Pace options next season currently:

 

Mulder

Finan

Salisbury

Hull

Scriven

 

Mulder has 20 at 17 this season so a real bonus if he's able to bowl all season next year.

 

Also in an innings less Wright with 310 runs at 38 (6 NOs) is only 4 runs scored behind Mulder's 314 as well so we'll also need more runs from Mulder and someone in the tail next season!

 

Some boy that Wright.

Edited 2 September 2023 by CrawlingFox

[MaidstoneFox]

5 hours ago, CrawlingFox said:

I think our overseas will by necessity have to be Mulder + a bowler and agree that still leaves us needing at least one more.

 

Of those you've named in the four day games Scriven has 17 wickets at 33 this season, Salisbury 9 at 38 and Hull 8 at 55.

 

Scriven is good and with his talent like Hull will clearly keep improving so no concern there but Wright's 36 at 26 will be hard to replace.

 

For reference Finan who will still be here has 8 at 44.

 

Barnes has 2 at 102. Davis took none for 80 and Walker hasn't played. Seems unlikely all three will be here next season, the former two definitely out of contract and Walker may be to. Pace options next season currently:

 

Mulder

Finan

Salisbury

Hull

Scriven

 

Mulder has 20 at 17 this season so a real bonus if he's able to bowl all season next year.

 

Also in an innings less Wright with 310 runs at 38 (6 NOs) is only 4 runs scored behind Mulder's 314 as well so we'll also need more runs from Mulder and someone in the tail next season!

 

Some boy that Wright.

Wright a huge loss in every respect. I thought we were signing Conor McKerr and possibly Pettman from Notts.

 

I'm pretty sure Davis is out of contract and so won't be here.

 

With Ackerman leaving I think the second overseas has to be a batsman, especially as having a stronger top order has worked this season in giving us a platform. I'd be happy to have Handscomb back as he brings leadership qualities to the dressing room as well.

 

Still a chance we might be Div 1 next year and that could make a difference as to who we can recruit, and it depends who our Head Coach is as well.

[The People's Hero]

2 hours ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Wright a huge loss in every respect. I thought we were signing Conor McKerr and possibly Pettman from Notts.

 

I'm pretty sure Davis is out of contract and so won't be here.

 

With Ackerman leaving I think the second overseas has to be a batsman, especially as having a stronger top order has worked this season in giving us a platform. I'd be happy to have Handscomb back as he brings leadership qualities to the dressing room as well.

 

Still a chance we might be Div 1 next year and that could make a difference as to who we can recruit, and it depends who our Head Coach is as well.

You and me... and a bottle of wine,

To hold you tonight.

[Cakey]

Same guy who told me about Patel and Ahmed signing on told me about Mckerr and Pettman. So partly right. Have to see. I don't know much about Pettman, Tall! Mckerr is quick but lacking confidence, could improve. Did well at Kent. 

 

[MaidstoneFox]

Won the toss and fielding. Strong batting line-up with Cox at 8 and Scriven at 9. Just part-time spin of Ackerman, though Umar Amin bowls a bit.

[Lionator]

On the final theme, it’s a shame the Leicestershire cricket league doesn’t push its fixtures back by 24 hours to let the players attend. I bet that rules a good 1000 people out busy when you include families who’d be interested too. 

[CrawlingFox]

22 hours ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Wright a huge loss in every respect. I thought we were signing Conor McKerr and possibly Pettman from Notts.

 

I'm pretty sure Davis is out of contract and so won't be here.

 

With Ackerman leaving I think the second overseas has to be a batsman, especially as having a stronger top order has worked this season in giving us a platform. I'd be happy to have Handscomb back as he brings leadership qualities to the dressing room as well.

 

Still a chance we might be Div 1 next year and that could make a difference as to who we can recruit, and it depends who our Head Coach is as well.

I'd prefer an overseas batter as well and frankly would love Handscomb back but with Wright going I do worry about the attack given he's carried it for years. How Hull, Salisbury and Scrivo get on over these last four games could provide reassurance though Hull not playing today is a shame maybe.

 

Could Kimber be ready to step into Ackermann's place in the batting lineup?

 

Patel

Budinger

Hill

Kimber

Mulder

Ahmed (Trevaskis when he's away)

Cox (WK)

Scriven

Overseas

Hull

Salisbury

 

I think the batting looks OK but not a lot of margin for someone not on the boil and a lot of pressure on Kimber, Budinger and Ahmed to be fair to produce. Mulder as well.

 

Clear we'll need more than just a strong solitary overseas signing to strengthen that lineup I think as I think Trevaskis would be the only decent backup. If we could get either a strong and experienced non overseas batter or bowler too that would help the balance.

 

Scriven has come on as a bowler this season and I'd not write off a similar batting improvement at some point as he has the tools which would be handy.

Edited 3 September 2023 by CrawlingFox

[MaidstoneFox]

1 hour ago, CrawlingFox said:

I'd prefer an overseas batter as well and frankly would love Handscomb back but with Wright going I do worry about the attack given he's carried it for years. How Hull, Salisbury and Scrivo get on over these last four games could provide reassurance though Hull not playing today is a shame maybe.

 

Could Kimber be ready to step into Ackermann's place in the batting lineup?

 

Patel

Budinger

Hill

Kimber

Mulder

Ahmed (Trevaskis when he's away)

Cox (WK)

Scriven

Overseas

Hull

Salisbury

 

I think the batting looks OK but not a lot of margin for someone not on the boil and a lot of pressure on Kimber, Budinger and Ahmed to be fair to produce. Mulder as well.

 

Clear we'll need more than just a strong solitary overseas signing to strengthen that lineup I think as I think Trevaskis would be the only decent backup. If we could get either a strong and experienced non overseas batter or bowler too that would help the balance.

 

Scriven has come on as a bowler this season and I'd not write off a similar batting improvement at some point as he has the tools which would be handy.

Could be an overseas bowler fits in based on that line-up, but we certainly need an extra batsman or two regardless. Steel will be off and I don't know what's happened to Nick Welch, while Sam Evans seems to be just here as captain of the seconds and unconvincing back-up to the firsts. Been lucky with injuries this year, no real back-up for the first team based on current squad projections.

 

Oh and Scriven has been a massive plus, should have got more games last year really and maybe he was one of the 'unhappy young players' that Richard Rae mentioned when hinting at why Nixon had left.

Edited 3 September 2023 by MaidstoneFox

[Silebyfox_89]

Fox stand upper for the final 👍

[Lionator]

Rehan got drafted for the Sydney sixers, another great experience for him! Hope he plays today

Edited 3 September 2023 by Lionator

[CrawlingFox]

1 hour ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Could be an overseas bowler fits in based on that line-up, but we certainly need an extra batsman or two regardless. Steel will be off and I don't know what's happened to Nick Welch, while Sam Evans seems to be just here as captain of the seconds and unconvincing back-up to the firsts. Been lucky with injuries this year, no real back-up for the first team based on current squad projections.

 

Oh and Scriven has been a massive plus, should have got more games last year really and maybe he was one of the 'unhappy young players' that Richard Rae mentioned when hinting at why Nixon had left.

Agree on the batting. Other than named in that XI you'd guess:

 

Welch - Probably off after underwhelming in the Blast and being allowed to go back to Zimbabwe during the One Day Cup.

 

Steel - Be a shock for a new contract now. Probably one that could have worked out better given he generally batted ok when he did play and it seems it was something off field causing him to be pushed out.

 

Swindells - As I said earlier in the thread he does have talent and maybe with Cox coming in he can put his keeping on the backburner and Taylor can try and do a Lewis Hill with his batting.

 

Evans - Again a player who has talent but he scores so slowly he makes Hassan Azad look like a bazball opener in waiting. Scoring at a s/r of 50 for the seconds this season which would be fine if could replicate for the firsts.

 

I'd not mind keeping on the two local lads as depth players if Taylor thinks he can improve them and they'd be then good bets stepping into the above XI in case of injuries etc. Equally though the young lad Jake Tarling has played for the Young Lions side this season and of he's a prospect then a batting equivalent of Hull would be nice!

 

On balance I think acquiring a couple decent bowlers then keeping on Handscomb if we can is probably the best scenario as the batting then looks very strong. With him into that XI at 4 your looking at rotating Kimber back in when needed before Evans or Swindells. Though Evans may add value as a specialist opener too which means we don't have to shuffle Hill to open.

[Lionator]

Last time I checked they were 75-1, now 123-6. Scriven 3-20 off of 14. What a bowler he’s turning out to be. 

[BigWesMorgan]

Boring boring stuff from Gloucestershire 

[Ted Maul]

9 minutes ago, BigWesMorgan said:

Boring boring stuff from Gloucestershire 

Might end up costing them.

[Voll Blau]

4 hours ago, Lionator said:

On the final theme, it’s a shame the Leicestershire cricket league doesn’t push its fixtures back by 24 hours to let the players attend. I bet that rules a good 1000 people out busy when you include families who’d be interested too. 

Especially with it being last game of the season. Got a few mates who'd skive playing if it was any other game.

[Tommy Fresh]

Great effort today

Edited 3 September 2023 by Tommy Fresh

[LBTufty]

49-0 to 159 all out, great fight back. 

 

Ryan Patel at Surrey was also mentioned. He's back in their side today but after 7 FC innings this season at less than 17, you would think Surrey will be looking to move him on.