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JoeyB

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erm, unless im missing something, this table is completely ****ed

... I'm... not sure I see it. I'm looking at it trying to work out what you mean, am I being thick? What's wrong with it?

Edit: Oh right, okay, there's teams above him that have won less and lost more... he should have like 67 points?

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What about the full backs, how do you set those up? Ideally I'd like Naughton and van Aanholt bombing forward but I don't think I'm going to be able to have that whilst being safe at the back am I?

Also what about width, temp, focus passing and all that lark?

Here's what I've got atm:

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what i have on most of my formations mate are, but i do change them depending on specialist formations,opposition or home and away.

4-4-2*

fluid,

attacking

more direct

default

press more

default

default

default

more romaing

defensive line about +75%

width + 75% (knock the current slider up 1 and)

tempo - about 85 %

time wasting - 35%

down both flanks

no or yes, i change often as it doesnt seemt ot make much difference to me.

play offside yes

hope it helps mate

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Going into the final qualifying game the table looked like this:

Euroqualifyingtable.png

lined up 4-3-3, attacking against the spanish:

matchstats.png

worked well but my strikers (front-line of miller --- boyd ---- riordan) were incredibly profligate.

anyways the table finishes like this:euroqualifyingtable-final.png

best runner-up means i qualify without p/o's though:

secondplacedteams.png

also is this the greatest name for a football team?

keith.jpg

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Here's what pisses me off about this game, everything's going swimmingly, I'll be winning pretty consistently and in a good run of form. Anyway, I see that I have Derby next (who are 19th) and Clough is under pressure, so I think to myself that this should be an easy win. I play them and they knock it around like Barcelona, literally zipping it around like they have 11 Messi's. Whats'up with that?

Surely a team who are struggling to win a game shouldn't be able to transform into a completely different team against me? I don't care if it's a derby, it just doesn't happen. Fair enough if they beat me with 2 fairly scrappy goals, I could put that down to losing because they upped their game against me, but to play like that and knock me from pillar to post and score 2 corkers annoys me a lot.

Anyway, onwards and upwards.

Edit: That loss seems to have put all my players morale in the red and now they're playing like shit.

**** you FM, **** you.

5 defeats in a row now since the Derby game, I have never seen anything like this.

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Here's what pisses me off about this game, everything's going swimmingly, I'll be winning pretty consistently and in a good run of form. Anyway, I see that I have Derby next (who are 19th) and Clough is under pressure, so I think to myself that this should be an easy win. I play them and they knock it around like Barcelona, literally zipping it around like they have 11 Messi's. Whats'up with that?

Surely a team who are struggling to win a game shouldn't be able to transform into a completely different team against me? I don't care if it's a derby, it just doesn't happen. Fair enough if they beat me with 2 fairly scrappy goals, I could put that down to losing because they upped their game against me, but to play like that and knock me from pillar to post and score 2 corkers annoys me a lot.

Anyway, onwards and upwards.

Edit: That loss seems to have put all my players morale in the red and now they're playing like shit.

**** you FM, **** you.

5 defeats in a row now since the Derby game, I have never seen anything like this.

...by that token, teams that are struggling never turn things round.

What team talk did you use?

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...by that token, teams that are struggling never turn things round.

What team talk did you use?

@Ozwin: ALWAYS use 'for the fans' when playing derbies. Except when you've got two or more in a row, then pick strategically which one they should get the boost in

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@Ozwin: ALWAYS use 'for the fans' when playing derbies. Except when you've got two or more in a row, then pick strategically which one they should get the boost in

I tend to find 'for the fans' only works when playing at home in derbies, use 'we can win this' when away against a side that is 'beatable'.

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... I'm... not sure I see it. I'm looking at it trying to work out what you mean, am I being thick? What's wrong with it?

Edit: Oh right, okay, there's teams above him that have won less and lost more... he should have like 67 points?

I know what the problem is. I forgot to mention I went into administration and was deducted 9 points for doing so, hence why the points are like they.

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I tend to find 'for the fans' only works when playing at home in derbies, use 'we can win this' when away against a side that is 'beatable'.

By 'beatable' I assume you mean when the opposition is the slight favourite? I never ever say 'you can win this' if I'm the bookies' favourite, even away.

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I got so bored of team talks I usually press the ask assistant button and just get on through it, same as opposition instructions. I'll throw in a few personal messages to players but generally I just find it repetitive.

I'd like it if you could do pre-sets with opposition instructions, so you'd always give instructions corresponding to certain formations and could just then tweak if coming up against a Messi or a Ronaldo or whatever.

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@Ozwin: ALWAYS use 'for the fans' when playing derbies. Except when you've got two or more in a row, then pick strategically which one they should get the boost in

I did.

At home I always use for the fans, away I usually let my assistant pick what to say.

I've managed to get team morale to mostly in the greeen now after a long hard January so hopefully I can sneak my way into the playoffs again. Someohow I'm 8th.

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I did.

At home I always use for the fans, away I usually let my assistant pick what to say.

I've managed to get team morale to mostly in the greeen now after a long hard January so hopefully I can sneak my way into the playoffs again. Someohow I'm 8th.

so you should avoid the drop then? Pretty good performance for you then.

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I got so bored of team talks I usually press the ask assistant button and just get on through it, same as opposition instructions. I'll throw in a few personal messages to players but generally I just find it repetitive.

I'd like it if you could do pre-sets with opposition instructions, so you'd always give instructions corresponding to certain formations and could just then tweak if coming up against a Messi or a Ronaldo or whatever.

It does get repetitive, but letting the assistant do them merely avoids bad team talks. You mostly lose the bonus of a good team talk. And I agree with oppo instructions, although again, if you meet e.g. a 4-5-1 you don't know whether the wingers are inside forwards or wide wingers in which case you have to look at the oppo players anyway. I would though like to know what difference it makes when asking players to show onto "weaker" foot or assigning the specific foot.

I did.

At home I always use for the fans, away I usually let my assistant pick what to say.

I've managed to get team morale to mostly in the greeen now after a long hard January so hopefully I can sneak my way into the playoffs again. Someohow I'm 8th.

Ah but that's where you're doing the team talks wrong. In general, try to avoid saying the same team talk at the start of games twice in a row. If you don't know what to say, don't say anything and maybe just say 'expect a performance' to your experienced heads/key players. When you say 'for the fans' every home game you effectively get NO bonus at all (the players get bored of what you say if you're repetitive), and usually the assistant will say it away as well unless you're the underdog where he might occasionally say 'you can win' or 'pressure is off'.

If you're the clear favourite at home, say expect a win.

If you're the clear underdog at home or slight underdog away say 'you can win'.

If it's a cup tie home or away and the odds are about even I find 'wish luck' works well.

Use for the fans only in derbies as that can give you a substantial motivation bonus.

Away and clear underdog use pressure is off.

I also advise that you use the 'special' ones when playing a tie over more than one leg. :thumbup:

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I'm sorry but that's not accurate. If you have an assistant with a high motivational score then, in my experience, he recommends plenty of good team talks. I've had games turn around because of what the assistant opted for.

I've even holiday'd League Cup / JPT games before and had the "<player> praises <assistant> for turn around" etc messages because he said something during the game.

And usually I agree with the assistant, it's just a case of pressing one button and getting it all done. If the assistant comes up with something retarded I'll usually change it, it's just such a boring part of the game I normally "skip" it.

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I'm sorry but that's not accurate. If you have an assistant with a high motivational score then, in my experience, he recommends plenty of good team talks. I've had games turn around because of what the assistant opted for.

I've even holiday'd League Cup / JPT games before and had the "<player> praises <assistant> for turn around" etc messages because he said something during the game.

And usually I agree with the assistant, it's just a case of pressing one button and getting it all done. If the assistant comes up with something retarded I'll usually change it, it's just such a boring part of the game I normally "skip" it.

I don't disagree with any of that. I was talking about pre-match team talks, which I admittedly did not make clear in my post. I do exactly the same as you during half-time and just change it if he's way off. I notice though that he never suggests 'angry' which I occasionally use and which can work better than 'question passion'. Sometimes he suggests 'encourage' when I'm the favourite and in the lead which never provides any motivational bonus (on the contrary) or 'disappointed' at FT despite winning. I suppose that's down to pre-programmed 'brain-farts' so assitants aren't always 100% right.

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