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The "do they mean us?" thread

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I was one of the people that thought it was a bad move to sack Pearson (still do in some ways) but my real concern about Raniari was I thought he would change everything. If I had known he wouldn't be changing much I would have been more supportive. Still think we looked more rounded with 3/5 at the back and I still have my biggest concern about what the future will hold and if we continue to buy the same kind of players team ethic etc... Some people talk as if Pearson just turned up of work without any input at all, which is really quite amazing! Raniari is getting a lot of credit for the team Nige built. Raniari should get credit for not taking the team apart, but he hasn't brought anyone in that has improved it and that is my only concern about the future. We are 3rd at this moment in time and playing as good as ever, so who can complain. Overall of course I'm happy like everyone else.

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We won games with 5 at the back towards the end of the season yes, but don't forget we lost and drew games earlier in the season trying it. It isn't fool proof.

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I was one of the people that thought it was a bad move to sack Pearson (still do in some ways) but my real concern about Raniari was I thought he would change everything. If I had known he wouldn't be changing much I would have been more supportive. Still think we looked more rounded with 3/5 at the back and I still have my biggest concern about what the future will hold and if we continue to buy the same kind of players team ethic etc... Some people talk as if Pearson just turned up of work without any input at all, which is really quite amazing! Raniari is getting a lot of credit for the team Nige built. Raniari should get credit for not taking the team apart, but he hasn't brought anyone in that has improved it and that is my only concern about the future. We are 3rd at this moment in time and playing as good as ever, so who can complain. Overall of course I'm happy like everyone else.

I had the same concerns as you, and still do regarding the defence.

But his transfers which we can credit him with (Benalouane and Inler) have fit in with the group really well, even if they aren't getting game time. He deserves credit for that. His previous relationship with Steve Walsh makes me believe our transfer policy is going to continue as it did under Nige.

You are right that he is enjoying the fruits of Nigels work. But Claudio has been successful in his own right in terms of selection and pro-activity with subs.

We are kind of still on the honeymoon period with him, it won't be for another 12 months until we see what long term impact he has had.

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I had the same concerns as you, and still do regarding the defence.

But his transfers which we can credit him with (Benalouane and Inler) have fit in with the group really well, even if they aren't getting game time. He deserves credit for that. His previous relationship with Steve Walsh makes me believe our transfer policy is going to continue as it did under Nige.

You are right that he is enjoying the fruits of Nigels work. But Claudio has been successful in his own right in terms of selection and pro-activity with subs.

We are kind of still on the honeymoon period with him, it won't be for another 12 months until we see what long term impact he has had.

There are basically two types of manager aren't there? Team builders and tacticians. Nige is a fantastic team builder and the players really bond with him and Raniari is a better tactician. ...apart from not playing 5 at the back! :thumbup:  

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There are basically two types of manager aren't there? Team builders and tacticians. Nige is a fantastic team builder and the players really bond with him and Raniari is a better tactician. ...apart from not playing 5 at the back! :thumbup:  

 

I just laugh every time I see a post from 'My Nads'. What a brilliant user name lol

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Jason Cundy: Jamie Vardy could tick all the boxes for Chelsea in January

 
jamie-vardy.jpg?w=736Vardy currently brings exactly what Chelsea are missing.Getty

Watching Chelsea lose to Stoke City, I saw elements of improvement. The performance over the 90 minutes was probably our best of the season. I don't know quite what that says but I thought there were individuals who have been below par who I thought played exceptionally well, Eden Hazard and Nemanja Matic, for example.

Willian continues to be Chelsea's outstanding player. He must have left the pitch thinking: "What more have I got to do to be on a winning side?" It's been a shocking season but you have to really suck it up. You get games like that, there's no point in feeling sorry for yourself and looking for excuses. You move on. On another day Chelsea get the equaliser and go on to win it. It's just one of those games and one of those seasons.

What to expect next from Jose Mourinho?

Only time will tell if the stadium ban has helped Jose. When he arrived back at the club two-and-a-half years ago, he did say he had changed, he had calmed down, but he's still the Jose we knew then. That is the way he operates. At times, I've watched him and he doesn't look particularly happy. But then again, why would he? But there needs to be different sides to managers.

When I consider the best, it depends on how results go for them, how decisions go, depending on what games are coming up. You see different sides. At the moment, Mourinho has the biggest challenge he has ever had in his managerial career: to turn this juggernaut around. It's been a case of two steps forward and one step back.

I've seen performances where Chelsea have been terrible, like against Newcastle United where we picked up a result when we didn't deserve one. Then like when we played against West Ham United with 10 men where we were the better side in the second half.

But outside of Chelsea, everyone is waiting for Jose to fail. He doesn't know what failure tastes like, really. Of course, you lose football matches, but failure isn't something he's tasted. It's probably very bitter. No one likes the taste of it, especially someone who has so much of the sweet stuff. There must be some dark moments for him when he's thinking of how to get out of this it and he's not used to it, we are not used to it. Certainly not the new generation of fans.

jose-mourinho.jpgMourinho under pressure but Chelsea must resist making what would be a huge mistake.Getty

I would be disappointed with the club if they pull the trigger, Jose has had three bad months in a career. I want us to be brave and stick through this. So many people outside of Chelsea want him gone because they know what he is capable of. You can imagine Manchester City fans thinking: "I hope they sack him." He's proven that he is able to get it right again if given the chance.

Chelsea must buy their way out of trouble

Are transfers needed to help solve the problem? In an ideal world, no, but when you are languishing at the bottom, you have to do what's right and I expect Chelsea to try and buy their way out of this. The area that needs to be rectified the most is up front. I think Diego Costa is a shadow of the player he was last season.

There are a number of players who have looked out of form but I felt at the weekend, his positional sense when Chelsea where in the final third was quite baffling. Instead of staying where I think he should have stayed near the penalty box, he drifts out and drops deep into the middle third. As a defender, that's where you like to see him. I expect Chelsea to do something in the market, definitely.

Market is inflated but Jamie Vardy would tick a lot of boxes

The market is always inflated and in an ideal world, you wouldn't go shopping. But just looking at someone like Jamie Vardy, who knows the Premier League, who is scoring goals, who stretches defences, who frightens the hell out of defences, who is English. He's 28; he's at his absolute peak.

You look at someone like that, would Leicester City sell him? They are in a very good position themselves and might be thinking they have an outside chance of Champions League football next season. Would they sell? Look at all the boxes he ticks. It could end up being a ridiculous sum of money, I don't know quite how much his value would be but I bet if you were Leicester you wouldn't accept less than £35m.

I think Chelsea need to go in and buy a ready-made player. I thought Radamel Falcao was a strange one. Didn't understand it. At the time, Chelsea needed to make a statement by going out and buying a player that could put Costa under pressure. A marquee centre forward. And we didn't do it and you can see there isn't a lot of competition for places up front as a result.

January is difficult to get right when you bring foreign players. Juan Cuadrado is an example. When you are buying someone who needs to come into the starting XI in January, they have to know the Premier League. It's a huge risk giving someone adjustment time. Chelsea don't have that time.

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Signing from Atalanta for Leicester over the summer for a fee neighbouring €8m, French-Tunisian defender Yohan Benalouane is yet to secure himself a place in the first-team at the Premier League club.


Playing only 64 minutes of league football, the centre-back has instead been preferred by Claudio Ranieri in the League Cup, where Leicester were knocked out in the 4th round by Hull City.


However, this hasn’t dampened the player’s spirit, as he explains in an exclusive interview with Italian websiteTuttoMercatoWeb on Wednesday afternoon, where he was asked about Claudio Ranieri’s experience at the club.


He said: “It’s very important, because he has managed to merge the Italian tactical work and the English mentality with the right balance. The mix, as well as an awareness of our qualities, has led us to be the revelation of the Premier League.”


Despite playing so little, Benalouane explains what is most important isn’t his game time, but that the team is doing well.


Coming over from Serie A, the defender admits needing a bit of time to adapt to his new surroundings and the new type of football, revealing he is prepared to be patient until he gets his chance.


As for a move away in January in look of more game time: “I’m fine at Leicester and 100% focused on the team’s season. My will today, as it was last summer, is to test myself in England.”


With the international break now taking over the football world, Benalouane will be undoubtedly working hard to show his manager, Claudio Ranieri, that he is ready for a start in the Premier League, with Leicester playing Newcastle away on the 21st of November.


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Jason Cundy: Jamie Vardy could tick all the boxes for Chelsea in January

 
jamie-vardy.jpg?w=736Vardy currently brings exactly what Chelsea are missing.Getty

Watching Chelsea lose to Stoke City, I saw elements of improvement. The performance over the 90 minutes was probably our best of the season. I don't know quite what that says but I thought there were individuals who have been below par who I thought played exceptionally well, Eden Hazard and Nemanja Matic, for example.

Willian continues to be Chelsea's outstanding player. He must have left the pitch thinking: "What more have I got to do to be on a winning side?" It's been a shocking season but you have to really suck it up. You get games like that, there's no point in feeling sorry for yourself and looking for excuses. You move on. On another day Chelsea get the equaliser and go on to win it. It's just one of those games and one of those seasons.

What to expect next from Jose Mourinho?

Only time will tell if the stadium ban has helped Jose. When he arrived back at the club two-and-a-half years ago, he did say he had changed, he had calmed down, but he's still the Jose we knew then. That is the way he operates. At times, I've watched him and he doesn't look particularly happy. But then again, why would he? But there needs to be different sides to managers.

When I consider the best, it depends on how results go for them, how decisions go, depending on what games are coming up. You see different sides. At the moment, Mourinho has the biggest challenge he has ever had in his managerial career: to turn this juggernaut around. It's been a case of two steps forward and one step back.

I've seen performances where Chelsea have been terrible, like against Newcastle United where we picked up a result when we didn't deserve one. Then like when we played against West Ham United with 10 men where we were the better side in the second half.

But outside of Chelsea, everyone is waiting for Jose to fail. He doesn't know what failure tastes like, really. Of course, you lose football matches, but failure isn't something he's tasted. It's probably very bitter. No one likes the taste of it, especially someone who has so much of the sweet stuff. There must be some dark moments for him when he's thinking of how to get out of this it and he's not used to it, we are not used to it. Certainly not the new generation of fans.

jose-mourinho.jpgMourinho under pressure but Chelsea must resist making what would be a huge mistake.Getty

I would be disappointed with the club if they pull the trigger, Jose has had three bad months in a career. I want us to be brave and stick through this. So many people outside of Chelsea want him gone because they know what he is capable of. You can imagine Manchester City fans thinking: "I hope they sack him." He's proven that he is able to get it right again if given the chance.

Chelsea must buy their way out of trouble

Are transfers needed to help solve the problem? In an ideal world, no, but when you are languishing at the bottom, you have to do what's right and I expect Chelsea to try and buy their way out of this. The area that needs to be rectified the most is up front. I think Diego Costa is a shadow of the player he was last season.

There are a number of players who have looked out of form but I felt at the weekend, his positional sense when Chelsea where in the final third was quite baffling. Instead of staying where I think he should have stayed near the penalty box, he drifts out and drops deep into the middle third. As a defender, that's where you like to see him. I expect Chelsea to do something in the market, definitely.

Market is inflated but Jamie Vardy would tick a lot of boxes

The market is always inflated and in an ideal world, you wouldn't go shopping. But just looking at someone like Jamie Vardy, who knows the Premier League, who is scoring goals, who stretches defences, who frightens the hell out of defences, who is English. He's 28; he's at his absolute peak.

You look at someone like that, would Leicester City sell him? They are in a very good position themselves and might be thinking they have an outside chance of Champions League football next season. Would they sell? Look at all the boxes he ticks. It could end up being a ridiculous sum of money, I don't know quite how much his value would be but I bet if you were Leicester you wouldn't accept less than £35m.

I think Chelsea need to go in and buy a ready-made player. I thought Radamel Falcao was a strange one. Didn't understand it. At the time, Chelsea needed to make a statement by going out and buying a player that could put Costa under pressure. A marquee centre forward. And we didn't do it and you can see there isn't a lot of competition for places up front as a result.

January is difficult to get right when you bring foreign players. Juan Cuadrado is an example. When you are buying someone who needs to come into the starting XI in January, they have to know the Premier League. It's a huge risk giving someone adjustment time. Chelsea don't have that time.

 

hasn't cundy got one nad?

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Every appointment is a risk and there was (and still is) a chance we'll get relegated so I didn't have a problem with that. The rubbishing of Ranieri and his career as a buffoon-like joke figure who makes 25 changes each game and lost to the Faroe Islands as proof we'd go down with about 6 points was ridiculous, however. Especially given that most of last season we were being told to ditch Pearson and go for Pulis/ Sherwood/ Lennon as they'd "keep us up, no question".

 

Foreign managers are always viewed differently to British ones however good/ bad they've been.

 

There is an incredible amount of English bias in the media, with the exception of Pearson although that's down to his general contempt for them, something I respect but unfortunately is always going to go against him.

 

I was unconvinced by Ranieri, but the media wound me up going on as if Steve McClaren is some fantastic coup by Newcastle (that's the same bloke who's Derby side absolutely fell to pieces) and Ranieri, who has achieved a lot more in the game than McClaren, is ridiculed as some clown based on one bad job - funnily enough, they haven't improved since he left either.

 

The media in this country would actually have you believe Sherwood to Remi Garde isn't a huge step up lol

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Ranieri*

We won games with 5 at the back towards the end of the season yes, but don't forget we lost and drew games earlier in the season trying it. It isn't fool proof.

The way I saw it, we lost games with 5 at the back, but won games with 3 at the back. We were losing when we played 2 defensive full backs in a flat (ultra-cautious) back 5, but replacing them with very attack-minded wing back kick-started our glorious run-in.

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Thursday 12 November 2015

High-flying Leicester the BPL's comeback kings Foxes have amassed more points from losing positions than any BPL side this season
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    Jamie Vardy's goals have been the source of six of Leicester's 10 comeback points

 
 

They may be third in the table but the strength in adversity that epitomisedLeicester City's late climb to safety in the Barclays Premier League last season is serving them well also in 2015/16.

More than a quarter of Leicester's 25 points this season have been won when the team were in a losing position. The 10 points they have recovered are the most in the Barclays Premier League.

"After 2-0, I watched my players and they believe that everything is possible - the spirit I love," said Claudio Ranieri, the manager, after watching his side come back from 2-0 down to beat Aston Villa 3-2 this season. "Then you can lose, but it's important that you fight until the end of the match."

Leicester comebacks 2015/16

22 Aug LEI 1-1 TOT (Mahrez)

29 Aug BOU 1-1 LEI (Vardy)

13 Sep LEI 3-2 AVL (De Laet, Vardy, Dyer)

19 Sep STK 2-2 LEI (Mahrez, Vardy)

17 Oct SOU 2-2 LEI (Vardy 2)

31 Oct WBA 2-3 LEI (Mahrez 2, Vardy)

 

Leicester most recently mounted a comeback in a 3-2 victory at West Bromwich Albion on 31 October, as a Riyad Mahrez double and Jamie Vardy's goal cancelled out Salomon Rondon's early opener.

The Foxes twice more have come from two goals down to secure points. Away to Southampton and to Stoke City they have salvaged draws, with BPL's leading goalscorer Vardy scoring three of their four goals in those two outings.

Vardy's goals have played a key part in these fightbacks. The striker has won six, or more than half, of the Foxes' 10 points via fightbacks. (Were all the striker's 12 league goals taken away Leicester would be on only 12 points).

Indeed, had Leicester been unable to rescue themselves after going behind they would have been on 15 points in the bottom half of the table, rather than dreaming possibly of Europe.

Three teams have yet to recover a point from a losing position: West Bromwich Albion, Crystal Palace and AFC Bournemouth.

The Cherries have also struggled when going into the lead. They, Southampton and Newcastle United have each lost seven points after taking the lead in matches, although these three fare better than Aston Villa and Chelsea, who have each seen eight possible points lost when ahead.

Palace are interesting in that whichever team score first in their league matches have gone on to win the match.

They join Arsenal and Everton as being the only three teams to have gone on to win every match in which they have led this season.

- See more at: http://www2.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/nov/121115-leicester-city-the-bpl-comeback-kings.html?#sthash.g5uKdv9j.dpuf

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As for Benalouane I'm stumped as to why was not on the bench at least. He covers 2 positions and seems a real team player. Hope he gets a chance at some point.

to be fair to De Laet he does cover the entire back 4

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There is an incredible amount of English bias in the media, with the exception of Pearson although that's down to his general contempt for them, something I respect but unfortunately is always going to go against him.

 

I was unconvinced by Ranieri, but the media wound me up going on as if Steve McClaren is some fantastic coup by Newcastle (that's the same bloke who's Derby side absolutely fell to pieces) and Ranieri, who has achieved a lot more in the game than McClaren, is ridiculed as some clown based on one bad job - funnily enough, they haven't improved since he left either.

 

The media in this country would actually have you believe Sherwood to Remi Garde isn't a huge step up lol

 

Whisper it, but it's because McClaren and Sherwood are English, as was Pearson. The media can't be seen to prefer foreign managers, regardless of whether or not they're the right man for the job.

 

I'm a big advocate for promoting homegrown talent and proud of our home nations and academy players, and have gone on record in the past lambasting the lack of home nations players in the top flight, but the media can **** off with their thinly-veiled xenophobic bullshit.

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Can't say I've noticed any bias against Mourinho , Wenger, Van Gaal or Klopp.I have noticed regular lambasting of Pullis's and Alladyce's style of football. Roy Hodgson doesn't get any easy ride. I think some of you are looking for something that isn't there.

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