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The "do they mean us?" thread

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One slight issue we may have for the run in - Arsenal will get trounced by Barcalona in the Champions League.

Obviously, Barca will spend the game rolling around on the floor as they play football the "right" way and the Arsenal fans will be up in arms about it.

Joking aside, that game stays as 11 v 11, we go on to win. I personally thought Claudio, tactically got it wrong and invited a very good Arsenal team onto us. They were scarred of Mahrez ...... Gray ..... Not so much.

Simpson .... Okay, he did what he did, maybe a tad soft but until that point he was solid. Not quite sure on his antics when he left the pitch. Who was he telling go f*** off?

Was ...... Why bring him on? The blokes a bomb scare, Why he felt the need to attempt to behead Monreal was beyond me. We need players to keep calm heads , Was doesn't strike me as that type.

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Sorry but I'm sick of this 'Wasyl is a bombscare' stuff.

Apart from this one, what other glaring error has he made in his three seasons with us!?

Defensively Wasilewski is solid as a centre back. Not so sure at right back.

I'm always half expecting him to do one or more of the following:

A) lunge at someone in an attempt at a showing some passion type challenge, missing and snapping them in half. Some people love him for this - in a maintain your head situation, this approach is not required in my opinion.

B) bringing out that Elbow - Huth Loves this as well, fine line between physical defending and border line assault. I point to classic examples of Berahino and Benayoon (sp?)

C) he's good for a yellow card. One every four appearances I think for Leicester.

Ultimately, should we get drawn against a Spanish side in the Champions League next season, it'll be very much like the Arsenal game. We need to pick the bones from that game. Which is maintaining a bit of composure.

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He won't be here next season so don't worry about that, I'm sure we will get someone better.

But he has served us very very well and doesn't deserve the stick he gets. So what if he leaves out the odd elbow? It is a fine line he and Huth tread but it is exactly what's needed to keep a robust defence and without that element we definitely wouldn't have won the Championship. Until a ref sends one of them off for it its not a problem.

1 yellow card per 4 games is really not that bad either. And he has never really lunged at anyone. He has made some strong tackles, but he is more aware than anyone of the damage you can do to someone with a dangerous tackle which is why he doesn't do them.

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Sorry but I'm sick of this 'Wasyl is a bombscare' stuff.

Apart from this one, what other glaring error has he made in his three seasons with us!?

100% with you. Wasyl has always been nothing but reliable for us, despite everyone's initial worries. One rash challenge and it's like we've never seen him before.

He's not a right back any more, and probably never was for us, but if we need CB cover I'd have no worries at all..

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Defensively Wasilewski is solid as a centre back. Not so sure at right back.

I'm always half expecting him to do one or more of the following:

A) lunge at someone in an attempt at a showing some passion type challenge, missing and snapping them in half. Some people love him for this - in a maintain your head situation, this approach is not required in my opinion.

B) bringing out that Elbow - Huth Loves this as well, fine line between physical defending and border line assault. I point to classic examples of Berahino and Benayoon (sp?)

C) he's good for a yellow card. One every four appearances I think for Leicester.

Ultimately, should we get drawn against a Spanish side in the Champions League next season, it'll be very much like the Arsenal game. We need to pick the bones from that game. Which is maintaining a bit of composure.

Never been sent off for us, and one yellow card every four games wouldn't get you suspended once in a premier league season.quality back up player, I challenge you to find another mistake he's made for us that has cost us a point.

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If that free kick had been defended properly like the dozen or so FKs and corners we came up against in that game no-one would be calling him out and many wouldve just brushed it off and laughed as what we always love Wasyl for. Hes come out and said that he's beating himself up about it so he doesnt deserve any more off our fans.

 

Funny how the media plays this, I still maintain that its usually all reactionary; you win one week and youre gonna win the league, the next week you lose and people are putting you down for 3rd and 4th place. Brighton did the double on us 13/14 and we need to fight back in the same way with spirit and determination

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This is a literal "do they mean us?"

 

just shows you how two different groups of fans see two different things. What did I as a Leicester fan see...a combination whinging tourists, plastics and self entitlement monkeys and players rolling over the pitch when not hurt or constantly waving imaginary yellow cards about. I also saw a team that simply wasnt going to get a result against us if it had stayed 11 v 11.

 

The ONLY reason they got anything out of this game was the sending off. Im not complaining about the decision, but the idea that they are good enough and mentally strong enough to win the league is deluded. Class? Arsenal should have it in spades with their history. Alas I think not.

 

If anything, this result will only galvanise us to smash those smug, elitist and condecending views so far down their throats!!!......COYBs!!!!

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In addition to that previous article clearly one of us noticed and wrote in:

England need players like Vardy
Sarah Winterburn writes
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“These people dismiss Wayne Rooney and call for Jamie Vardy to play in his ‘proper’ place as an out-and-out striker, ignoring the fact that England have cruised to European Championship qualification using an entirely different system to Leicester.”

This argument seems to miss the point entirely. If England want to do well at the Euros, they WILL have to change their system and play more like Leicester.

The fact that England cruised through their group is not a consequence of the system used but simply of the low quality of the opposition. If they reach the knockout stages at the Euros they will come up against teams made up of more gifted individuals. England might be able to dominate possession against Estonia, but not even the most naive fan would deny that Spain or Germany will inevitably dominate possession against England. In this scenario, you need players who might still get a result.

Suddenly it’s not so silly to call for players like Vardy to be included, as they actually have experience of playing for a team that is greater than the sum of its parts. It’s not just about Rooney/Vardy, but using these two players as an example illustrates the point.

Imagine you are an employer recruiting a team of individuals.

Rooney has experience playing in a team that has 56% average possession and yet only scores 1.27 goals per game. Vardy has experience playing in a team that has 43% average possession and yet manages to score 1.85 goals per game, through effective counter-attacks, higher number of tackles, higher number of interceptions etc. Vardy also has a better individual record than Rooney.

Which player is more suited for the job?

 

:appl:

 

The title F365 chose to reference that mail on their homepage?  "England need players like Vardy. Urgh."  Says it all.  The same website also ran an uncredited piece around Christmas which flat-out called Vardy a racist in one of its paragraphs offering no context whatsoever let alone the notion that there was any discourse to be had on the matter (I think it was in one of their Mediawatch segments).  I wrote an email to them offering context but they ignored it.  Seems their editorial circle have made their mind up on the matter and smaller team players are not welcome at the big boys table.

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Just seen this posted on the Arsenal Forum "It'd be an embarrassment for the league if Leicester win".

I know lots of fans of lots of clubs and the majority are intelligent and decent people. This has really just made me wonder if this guy is for real. If he really believes that then maybe Arsenal should go and create a mini league with perhaps the few teams they deem worthy to play alongside them. Then the rest of us could have a league based on competition between August and May and not deluded entitlement.

The chap above him also posted how we became shaky when they started throwing cross after cross into our box. I just wonder if he even remembers that our right back was sent off, a 36 year old centre back was put on who probably wasn't expecting to play anyway. Who wouldn't have been shaky.

I suppose they have the right to be so arrogant, what with all those Champions League/European Cup titles. Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Forest and Villa I believe......no Arsenal. Massive Galactico Superstars!

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Just seen this posted on the Arsenal Forum "It'd be an embarrassment for the league if Leicester win".

I know lots of fans of lots of clubs and the majority are intelligent and decent people. This has really just made me wonder if this guy is for real. If he really believes that then maybe Arsenal should go and create a mini league with perhaps the few teams they deem worthy to play alongside them. Then the rest of us could have a league based on competition between August and May and not deluded entitlement.

The chap above him also posted how we became shaky when they started throwing cross after cross into our box. I just wonder if he even remembers that our right back was sent off, a 36 year old centre back was put on who probably wasn't expecting to play anyway. Who wouldn't have been shaky.

I suppose they have the right to be so arrogant, what with all those Champions League/European Cup titles. Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Forest and Villa I believe......no Arsenal. Massive Galactico Superstars!

No - it would be an embarrassment to Arsenal. Thats different. To be fair to Arsenal fans though, they aren't in the 'Arrogant Bell-End' league by themselves.....not a ringing endorsement I know!

 

I would call out Man City fans as the 'elite club' exception. They generally seem quite knowledgable and respectful of other teams, without displaying an arrogant sense of entitlement

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In addition to that previous article clearly one of us noticed and wrote in:

:appl:

The title F365 chose to reference that mail on their homepage? "England need players like Vardy. Urgh." Says it all. The same website also ran an uncredited piece around Christmas which flat-out called Vardy a racist in one of its paragraphs offering no context whatsoever let alone the notion that there was any discourse to be had on the matter (I think it was in one of their Mediawatch segments). I wrote an email to them offering context but they ignored it. Seems their editorial circle have made their mind up on the matter and smaller team players are not welcome at the big boys table.

It's a waste of time - I wrote to them about Vardy as well but you're right - a decision has been made by them that Vardy is not good for football - they derided him when he was called up for England the first and second times, using the "racism" incident as a thin cover for the fact that they didn't think he was very good.

Fast forward 6 months and they are still bringing up the casino incident at every opportunity (it's in today's mediawatch) because of course it needs to be mentioned every time Vardy is mentioned (no comment on Suarez racially abusing or biting people on a football pitch, which is surely more relevant (albeit still completely irrelevant) in discussing Suarez/Messi's penalty on Sunday). Now they're saying "class is permanent" as a means of saying why Danny Welbeck should be in the England squad ahead of Vardy.

Now I like Danny Welbeck and think he has taken a lot of unnecessary stick over the years from England and especially Manchester United fans, but his goalscoring record in the Premier League stands at 31 in 144 games. Vardy's is 24 in 60. Goals aren't everything, but they're not dissimilar players - quick, hard-working team players with an eye for goal (albeit one significantly more so than the other). To argue that Welbeck should be in ahead of Vardy because he's got "more class" is elitist nonsense.

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Sorry but I'm sick of this 'Wasyl is a bombscare' stuff.

Apart from this one, what other glaring error has he made in his three seasons with us!?

 

 

He has allowed several people to live who dared stand in his way on the football pitch. Clearly getting old...

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If Welbeck or Sturridge get a call up with having missed a lot of premier league football it will be a massive mistake and not give any player the hunger to play for the England side knowing they will be dismissed because they don't play for a top 4/6 established team.

England are are all about names than actually picking the best team at this particular moment.

The Manager and FA need a massive overhaul to buck this trend as we have won bugger all with this mentality so far....so why the snobbery.

And Regarding the Arsenal fan...the only embarrassed people will be theirs.

Us and Spurs are hardly meant to challenge for the title.

Man city announcing the manager leaving will have an effect on them.

Man U and Chelsea having a indifferent season and won't be the same next.

Arsenal have all the pressure on them in this so called "poor premiership race"

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http://arsenalist.com/f/2015-16/arsenal-vs-leicester//mahrez-dives-in-box.html

 

This is the vid if you were like me trying to follow the link in a jpg :blush:

 

He is switching his momentum from left to right and makes quite a solid contact with Monreal (look at his face he knows it is another pen) it is not a dive when there is contact, and when you are twisting and turning it doesn't take much to send you down.

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A United fan was trying to take the piss out of me/us today for losing to Arsenal :unsure: they lost to fucking Sunderland at the bloody weekend!

 

I didn't bite, I just laughed (Because I genuinely found the situation hillarious) which made him get even more wound up spouting more bullshite.

 

You know they're getting desperate when this is the case. Wow.

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