Let's have a TV shows thread.

[Tuna]

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Edited 19 March 2023 by Tuna

[Mike Oxlong]

Coming soon 

 

[Unabomber]

Just watched the first 2 episodes of the bear on Disney. Pretty good. 

[TamworthFoxes]

Enjoyed 24 hours in Police Custody over the last 2 nights. 
Annoying how no suspect ever speaks in interviews but gives the usual no comment. Surely they realise how guilty it makes them look as if an innocent person was being interviewed for something they hadn’t done they would obviously explain what they knew and the fact it wasn’t them.

Also shows how hard it is for Police, makes me think that if they ever manage to get a charge approved by the CPS then they are guaranteed guilty.

That will be my motto if I ever get on jury duty!! 

[urban.spaceman]

The Catch on Channel 5, with Jason Watkins, some other people, and the pigeon lady off Home Alone 2.

 

‘Twas OK, a bit predictable as these small dramas go. One really annoying trait of such dramas is when the antagonist has the protagonist on their own, literally at their mercy, but the protagonist runs off and a chase scene begins. It’s literally to stretch out the plot for time and it’s really noticeable.

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, TamworthFoxes said:

Annoying how no suspect ever speaks in interviews but gives the usual no comment. Surely they realise how guilty it makes them look as if an innocent person was being interviewed for something they hadn’t done they would obviously explain what they knew and the fact it wasn’t them.

....perhaps they're aware of the "anything you do say may be taken as evidence" part that the police tell you when arrested.

 

I dunno about anyone else, but AFAIC if they've arrested me I could have a cast-iron alibi that shows I was a thousand miles away and I'd still wait for a lawyer to be present before talking. When you're in that interview room, the fuzz and CPS are not your friends. Saying nothing doesn't look guilty, just looks smart IMO.

 

1 hour ago, TamworthFoxes said:

Also shows how hard it is for Police, makes me think that if they ever manage to get a charge approved by the CPS then they are guaranteed guilty.

That will be my motto if I ever get on jury duty!! 

Better a hundred guilty men go free than one innocent man be convicted. So the job should be hard.

[TamworthFoxes]

23 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

....perhaps they're aware of the "anything you do say may be taken as evidence" part that the police tell you when arrested.

 

I dunno about anyone else, but AFAIC if they've arrested me I could have a cast-iron alibi that shows I was a thousand miles away and I'd still wait for a lawyer to be present before talking. When you're in that interview room, the fuzz and CPS are not your friends. Saying nothing doesn't look guilty, just looks smart IMO.

 

Better a hundred guilty men go free than one innocent man be convicted. So the job should be hard.

No not at all, if I had done nothing wrong I would tell my version of events. It would be ludicrous to sit there and say no comment. Saying no comment does make you look guilty I assure you.
 

You would be happy for 100 guilty men to go free, wow. You must love the British justice system at the minute.  I’d be willing to risk the one innocent man convicted as in your system and the current one he would have got away with 100 offences before that anyway.

[leicsmac]

43 minutes ago, TamworthFoxes said:

No not at all, if I had done nothing wrong I would tell my version of events. It would be ludicrous to sit there and say no comment. Saying no comment does make you look guilty I assure you.
 

You would be happy for 100 guilty men to go free, wow. You must love the British justice system at the minute.  I’d be willing to risk the one innocent man convicted as in your system and the current one he would have got away with 100 offences before that anyway.

Fair enough then, we clearly have a differing opinion of how the fuzz do their job and the part of the general public in it.

 

A society where an innocent person is convicted and that's accepted as "collateral damage" is not one I would like to be part of. I am curious as to why others might think differently. That innocent person could, one day, be you, me or anyone else here.

Edited 22 March 2023 by leicsmac

[RonnieTodger]

Race Across The World on BBC is the best thing I’ve seen for for a long time.

[lcfc278]

6 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

Race Across The World on BBC is the best thing I’ve seen for for a long time.

I watched the first 2 series back to back in lockdown, brilliant TV.

 

Excited for the new series starting tonight!

[The Bear]

10 hours ago, TamworthFoxes said:

No not at all, if I had done nothing wrong I would tell my version of events. It would be ludicrous to sit there and say no comment. Saying no comment does make you look guilty I assure you.
 

You would be happy for 100 guilty men to go free, wow. You must love the British justice system at the minute.  I’d be willing to risk the one innocent man convicted as in your system and the current one he would have got away with 100 offences before that anyway.

You're very naive about how the police go about conducting interviews. They will absolutely 100% try and trick you into giving away information, and will assume you are guilty from the off. Telling them as much as possible only gives them more ammunition to try and link you with events whether you're innocent or not. 

 

I most certainly would say nothing until I have official representation present. 

[Captain...]

9 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Fair enough then, we clearly have a differing opinion of how the fuzz do their job and the part of the general public in it.

 

A society where an innocent person is convicted and that's accepted as "collateral damage" is not one I would like to be part of. I am curious as to why others might think differently. That innocent person could, one day, be you, me or anyone else here.

The flip side is the 100 guilty men going free could commit more crimes. If any of them are serious criminals then the 1 innocent person is counter balanced with another 2 or 3 being murdered or raped. 

 

At least an innocent person has a chance at being freed. 

 

I get the point and it is normally one I share, I'd rather 100 people were scamming the benefits system than 1 person that needs it to survive gets cut off.

 

However the consequence of 100 guilty people being let off could have dire consequences that far outweigh the 1 innocent person being locked up. So I'm not sure if I agree in this case.

[leicsmac]

30 minutes ago, Captain... said:

The flip side is the 100 guilty men going free could commit more crimes. If any of them are serious criminals then the 1 innocent person is counter balanced with another 2 or 3 being murdered or raped. 

 

At least an innocent person has a chance at being freed. 

 

I get the point and it is normally one I share, I'd rather 100 people were scamming the benefits system than 1 person that needs it to survive gets cut off.

 

However the consequence of 100 guilty people being let off could have dire consequences that far outweigh the 1 innocent person being locked up. So I'm not sure if I agree in this case.

And from a practical perspective, I would agree with this.

 

However, I would also warn that trading lives in that way by getting the innocent to also secure the guilty is a very slippery slope that can lead to a very bad place. Hence my reticence to even start on that hill-way.

 

But perhaps this is a discussion for somewhere other than the TV shows thread.

[Captain...]

20 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

And from a practical perspective, I would agree with this.

 

However, I would also warn that trading lives in that way by getting the innocent to also secure the guilty is a very slippery slope that can lead to a very bad place. Hence my reticence to even start on that hill-way.

 

But perhaps this is a discussion for somewhere other than the TV shows thread.

Well it directly relates to the end of TLOU so it's kinda relevant, but yes it is a slippy slope so happy to leave it there.

[ian__marshall]

Re: The MH370 documentary, I felt it was pretty poor. As has been mentioned it was full of conspiracy theories none of which realistically add up.

 

I'm not buying the US jamming theory. Firstly, I presume that planes operate on an open communications frequency to enable contact with other planes and air traffic control. At the altitude the so called surveillance plane was operating at, any jamming of signals would have been indiscriminate and most likely would have taken out comms of other planes flying in the vicinity. I don't believe that there's been any reports of other planes experiencing comms issues during the period of time. Even if other planes did you'd effectively have a shadow on radar which mirrors the path taken by MH370 so I doubt this theory as I'm sure this would have come to light by now. 

 

We also know that the plane was pinging the Inmarsat beacons for a substantial period of time after its disappearance (have to question how this would this happen if signals had been jammed). As such the US clearly didn't take the plane out over the airspace directly above its base, so why would they let it fly for several hours before taking action as they'd certainly have identified it as a passenger aircraft by that point and have deemed it no risk? It wouldn't have been worth the risk in terms of their international reputation had evidence ever emerged of their involvement. 

 

As for the suspicious cargo theory and the US needing to intervene. The documentary alleges that the plane may have been carrying an item containing intelligence on the US to China and the US didn't want the package to get to its intended destination. If that was the case why did jet deviate from its planned route and go in completely the opposite direction to China before eventually disappearing?

 

Whilst I don't agree with the conspiracy theories raised the whole incident is very odd and I'm amazed that its even possible for a commercial jet to just disappear. 

 

Unfortunately I think due to the way the investigation occurred at the time, the vast area involved, and the depth of the ocean in that part of the world we may never know what sadly occurred to that plane. I feel really sad for the bereaved who will unlikely never get closure on the disappearance of their loved ones. 

[ian__marshall]

I'm late to TLOU party. Really struggled with the first 2 episodes as it seemed to be scripted like a video game, I.e. Amateurishly disjointed (I know it is based on a game). However I watched episode 3 the other day and was blown away by it, really great narrative to the story and strong characters. I'm hoping the rest of the season is more like episode 3 rather than the first two. 

[Tommy G]

5 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

Race Across The World on BBC is the best thing I’ve seen for for a long time.

Can't wait, such good TV

[Captain...]

7 minutes ago, ian__marshall said:

I'm late to TLOU party. Really struggled with the first 2 episodes as it seemed to be scripted like a video game, I.e. Amateurishly disjointed (I know it is based on a game). However I watched episode 3 the other day and was blown away by it, really great narrative to the story and strong characters. I'm hoping the rest of the season is more like episode 3 rather than the first two. 

It's a mix, the first 2 episodes were very much setting the scene but still very enjoyable for me (I have played the game). The rest is very much character driven with a few set pieces and there is another "standalone" episode that is very good. I would persevere with it overall it is an excellent piece of TV. Having said that episodes 4&5 were probably the weakest imho, not bad, but trying to cram a bit too much of the extra world in and it felt a little rushed as a result.

[CWC1983]

5 hours ago, lcfc278 said:

I watched the first 2 series back to back in lockdown, brilliant TV.

 

Excited for the new series starting tonight!

Both series were excellent, and surprisingly for a reality show I warmed to all the participants. 

 

Probobly enjoyed the South America one better because it showed cultures and places I'd never comes across before. 

[ithuriel]

Good episode of Mando S3 ep.4.

A reaction video with Easter Eggs

 

Edited 22 March 2023 by ithuriel

[FoyleFox]

On 19/03/2023 at 17:41, marbles said:

The “supposed” route on his sim was not the same route, and was revealed to have been found by the FBI until over a year after the took his stuff - adding to the theories that the US was involved,

 

Plus, the route they claim he took flew directly over a US military base.  Something that would never be allowed to happen.

Definitely not. You're not flying a kite within miles of a US military base!  There was a private plane had a comms issue recently, near Scotland, I think, and military jets were up to escort it in minutes. A non communicating jumbo would've had the same.

 

Just started watching The Warship:Tour of Duty. The monitoring and reactions to events - incoming unfriendly jets and ships is phenomenal. A US Military base is going to be doing similar, surely? It would've been better if had taken that route, jets would've intercepted, and we'd know what happened to it.

 

Still incomprehensible that a commercial airline just 'disappeared'. The agony for the families must be beyond description.

[Staffs Fox]

Soccer AM has finally been put out of its misery it seems. I happened upon an episode a few months back and it was a shadow of its former self. I actually don’t blame the presenters but it was apparently they didn’t have any budget, it was very sad.

 

I actually have tremendous memories of this growing up in the late 90’s/early 00’s. I believe it used to be 3 hours long and be an awesome start to the weekend. I understand it hasn’t aged well, due to its lads culture vibe but it used to be ace. Bits were genuinely funny, good music and of course football.

 

If you’ll indulge me a little nostalgia trip, it takes me back to a brilliant, innocent time in my life. When I was doing my A-levels, this show was probably at its peak 2003/04ish and I used to work late Friday night then have Saturdays free. I used to wake up, put this on, watch until 12. Quick shower and then out to watch the lunchtime kick off with my mates in the pub. Bets on first scorer, round of killer pool, loads of beer, just a great time of youth. Bit of tangent but when I heard Soccer AM had been scrapped my mind immediately went back to those days

[rachhere]

So happy Race Around the World is back. We went to Stanley park last year so it was great that was the starting point. We even saw the beavers they showed

[The Bear]

Just now, rachhere said:

So happy Race Around the World is back. We went to Stanley park last year so it was great that was the starting point. We even saw the beavers they showed

Race around Anfield? 

[Tommy G]

8 hours ago, rachhere said:

So happy Race Around the World is back. We went to Stanley park last year so it was great that was the starting point. We even saw the beavers they showed

From what I saw of Canada on the show last night I’m definitely going. Looks insanely good