Animal rights

[Manwell Pablo]

The Britannica link is 2012!.... the de Condercet quote was just to show that many thinking people had recognised animal intelligence and ability to think 300 years ago. Do you actually believe that animals are not capable or thought and choice... is that really what you are saying?

Unfortunately your 2nd paragraph doesnt make sense.

Unfortunately your 3rd paragraph doesnt make sense.

So, because they are stunned, its ok for them to be killed?... this is your question?

If its ok for that, then you wont mind if i aneasthetise you and humanely pop a bolt through your head?

Depends on which animal, I persoanlly believe cows and chickens react mostly on instinctive impulses.

You mean you're too stupid to understand/answer either question. That's fair enough.

Not at all, you are more than welcome to try it.

[Captain...]

The Britannica link is 2012!.... the de Condercet quote was just to show that many thinking people had recognised animal intelligence and ability to think 300 years ago. Do you actually believe that animals are not capable or thought and choice... is that really what you are saying?

Unfortunately your 2nd paragraph doesnt make sense.

Unfortunately your 3rd paragraph doesnt make sense.

So, because they are stunned, its ok for them to be killed?... this is your question?

If its ok for that, then you wont mind if i aneasthetise you and humanely pop a bolt through your head?

Only if you eat him afterwards otherwise it would be a waste.

[Leicester Piggott]

Whilst everyone is having a good barney about gays, layabouts, muslims etc etc etc, why not argue this one too?

[Rincewind]

I'm all for a quiet life.

[acooling08]

Has anybody else noticed a lot more roadkill around in the last few weeks or is it just me? Badgers and foxes in all states of decay on the roadside.

I even saw a bird get hit by a HGV on the M1 a week back - it dove across the road like they do but misjudged it and got caught. It was a small thing and landed on the fast lane flapping about on it's back. Felt bad for it, I bet it got splattered very soon after.

[Rincewind]

A year or two ago when I was doing security, I was sitting quietly in my office when there was a thud on the window. I went outside an d there was a dead pigeon lying on the path. I carefully picked it up and threw it on some grassy part. No doubt some passing fox or a cat (that had been allowed out) had a good meal that night. Every animal that is killed enables an alive animal to survive one more day.

I think the same way about chicken, pork and beef.

[ozleicester]

[Jaspa]

Super-Gay

Is he 77 in that pic?

Cause its deffo implying so

[ozleicester]

Super-Gay

Is he 77 in that pic?

Cause its deffo implying so

I guess you can only see things how you see things... no, it clearly says now 77, i certainly didnt think he was 77 in the picture... and to be honest i dont really care if he is gay.

Edit, a quick google suggests that yes.. he is 77 in that pic.. (and he is gay)

http://www.huffingto..._n_1938764.html

Edited 9 February 2013 by ozleicester

[Jaspa]

I guess you can only see things how you see things... no, it clearly says now 77, i certainly didnt think he was 77 in the picture... and to be honest i dont really care if he is gay.

Edit, a quick google suggests that yes.. he is 77 in that pic.. (and he is gay)

http://www.huffingto..._n_1938764.html

Well I wouldnt class him as a long term vegan as someone who started at 65 and is now 77

Well done to the man for still going, alot of luck in there too; not every vegan can stay ripped hey oz

Ya cat torturing bastard

[MooseBreath]

A gay vegetarian? Who would have thought!

[sphericalfox]

Super-Gay

Is he 77 in that pic?

Cause its deffo implying so

Also says he's a 'longtime vegan'. What period of time is 'longtime'? Did this gentleman consume meat prior to his bodybuidling career, thus building muscle mass, then turn vegan, or did he give up meat and then become a bodybuilder? What penance does this man endure for the consumption and choice killing of animals to create such a body specimen?

[ozleicester]

Also says he's a 'longtime vegan'. What period of time is 'longtime'? Did this gentleman consume meat prior to his bodybuidling career, thus building muscle mass, then turn vegan, or did he give up meat and then become a bodybuilder? What penance does this man endure for the consumption and choice killing of animals to create such a body specimen?

Vegetarian at 50 - Vegan at 65. He did indeed consume meat and build mass prior to going veggie.

Penance?...why?

As an aside, comments have been made regarding animals intellect and ability... just a quick demonstration of a wild animal adapting.

one clever little bird...

[ozleicester]

A gay vegetarian? Who would have thought!

A stupid comment... who would've thought

[Guest MattP]

A gay vegetarian? Who would have thought!

lol

Never have guessed would you?!

[Manwell Pablo]

Vegetarian at 50 - Vegan at 65. He did indeed consume meat and build mass prior to going veggie.

Penance?...why?

As an aside, comments have been made regarding animals intellect and ability... just a quick demonstration of a wild animal adapting.

one clever little bird...

http://news.sky.com/story/1050008/fox-bites-off-babys-finger-in-cot-attack

You can switch back to the animals are too stupid to know what they're doing arguement now.

[Carl the Llama]

Neighbour Paula Wellington told Sky News: "I was at work when it happened but heard about it when I got back.

lol

[ozleicester]

..analysis by the Soil Association of the Government’s statistics indicates that the overall use of antibiotics per animal on UK farms increased by 18% between 2000 and 2010, while the farm use of third and fourth-generation cephalosporins — drugs described by the Health Protection Agency as hospital workhorses — increased by over 500%.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/01/antibiotic-debate-uk/

[ozleicester]

Sausages, ham, bacon and other processed meats appear to increase the risk of dying young, a study of half a million people across Europe suggests.

It concluded diets high in processed meats were linked to cardiovascular disease, cancer and early deaths.

The researchers, writing in the journal BMC Medicine, said salt and chemicals used to preserve the meat may damage health.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...health-21682779

Edited 7 March 2013 by ozleicester

[Darkon84]

A leading study in to the effects on health by vegan lifestyles has been proven to increase the level of annoyance and boringness in up to 99% of sufferers. Professer Henry Brubaker, from the Institute of Studies, had this to say on the matter...

''After conducting several thorough studies and collating sufficient evidence, we just find it increasingly difficult to understand why anyone would feel this lifestyle is appropriate for a human being. One of the more severe side effects appears to be an increased ability to constantly repeat bullshit no one cares about, regarding healthy, delicious meats''

Edited 7 March 2013 by Darkon84

[Manwell Pablo]

Sausages, ham, bacon and other processed meats appear to increase the risk of dying young, a study of half a million people across Europe suggests.

It concluded diets high in processed meats were linked to cardiovascular disease, cancer and early deaths.

The researchers, writing in the journal BMC Medicine, said salt and chemicals used to preserve the meat may damage health.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...health-21682779

You're boring.

Let the thread die.

And you have no point, eating TOO MUCH shit meat will increase the risk of dying young, not as part of a balanced healthy diet. If you do TOO MUCH of pretty much anything it'll do you no good. We've already been through this.

[Guest MattP]

Sausages, ham, bacon and other processed meats appear to increase the risk of dying young, a study of half a million people across Europe suggests.

It concluded diets high in processed meats were linked to cardiovascular disease, cancer and early deaths.

The researchers, writing in the journal BMC Medicine, said salt and chemicals used to preserve the meat may damage health.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...health-21682779

Does it matter?

I'd rather die at 65 eating meat than at 85 not. Most would.

Quality of life is what it's about.

[The Doctor]

Life to years, not years to life oz - Living to 100 and being a dull old cunt isn't what anyone sane would want. Live fast, die young and leave a good looking corpse.

[Guest MattP]

http://news.sky.com/story/1061558/drunk-student-convicted-of-frying-hamster

Never got this pissed

[birdwith2beaksandnofriends]

Animals are great.