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I missed the first half hour today because there was no room left. Atleast 500 people couldnt get in. Their stewards where flapping and were no help. The queue was massive leading up to the stand. They're head steward told me they have over sold and was dangerous but couldnt do nothing.

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Seemed that way to me. The stand was full at 3pm then plenty more were being let in and all crowding around the main entrance/exit in the middle.

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Stupid really in this day and age. THIS is what killed people at Hillsborough, not standing.

How clubs are supposed to be strict on standing at games but not overcrowding is beyond me

I do realise that it was standing at posh, but you get my gist

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Stupid really in this day and age. THIS is what killed people at Hillsborough, not standing.

If there was seating today surely fans would have dispersed to their allocated seats hence no overcrowding.
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A lot of people who went in League 1, like myself, suffered similar at Pbo away, I was glad we didn't score, it was horrible.

People were boasting how we were taking over and how many fans we would have, but this scenario was at the forefront of my mind in the build-up and it seems to have proved so.

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Cue someone saying this is why we shouldn't have safe standing.

That was not safe today in the middle, it was definitely oversold.

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If there was seating today surely fans would have dispersed to their allocated seats hence no overcrowding.

Nothing to do with seating. If they hadn't oversold tickets there wouldn't be overcrowding...

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There was an a request over the tannoy for fans to move forward so that others could get in.

I heard that, but wondered where they would move to?

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Nothing to do with seating. If they hadn't oversold tickets there wouldn't be overcrowding...

Correct.

A terrace should have a strict capacity which must not be exceeded and that clearly isn't the case with that terrace.

Proper safe standing areas have capacities that are as defined as all-seaters, rather than the approach of print tickets for as many as you can physically get on the terrace which seems to have happened today.

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If there was seating today surely fans would have dispersed to their allocated seats hence no overcrowding.

How though, they'd be unable to oversell as you can't sell two tickets for one seat.

Im not sayong seating is the way forward, quite the opposite. But overselling in a standing area is a cardinal sin when we have a big safe standing campaign across the country, people not clued up on safe standing will easily confuse it with situations like today which would be hugely counterproductive for the cause

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Correct.

A terrace should have a strict capacity which must not be exceeded and that clearly isn't the case with that terrace.

Proper safe standing areas have capacities that are as defined as all-seaters, rather than the approach of print tickets for as many as you can physically get on the terrace which seems to have happened today.

Surely, if fans choose to stand in the same areas and not disperse evenly then standing can become unsafe? I thought the idea of safe standing was allocated standing spaces.
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Extremely dangerous. I heard that people were even told to move further down so more people could fit in at the back.

Wasn't one of the problems at Hillsborough that people got crushed because more people were forced in to and down in to the stands?

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Surely, if fans choose to stand in the same areas and not disperse evenly then standing can become unsafe? I thought the idea of safe standing was allocated standing spaces.

It's rather more complicated than that.

You're given a ticket that will entitle you to a space in a certain area of the stand. The current model at Peterborough enables you to stand anywhere on the Moy's End, whereas safe standing areas would split it into several sections with a carefully controlled capacity in each, meaning that the 4-5,000 fans would be evenly spread.

I doubt that a safe standing area of that size would have such a high capacity though as there is a strict ratio regarding standing places to seats in place in such areas.

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I know. My point was that old fashioned terracing can be unsafe if fans choose to overcrowd an area.

Indeed it can. Which is why nobody is propsoing the reintroduction of terraces like Peterborough's.

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