Missing Plane

[sphericalfox]

There are separatist groups in China so it's possible but I agree about the passports, doesn't necessarily prove anything. Who knows?

 

Sure, there are definitely groups in China who are unfriendly to their government, though not sure what taking out a Malaysian airplane is going to do for your cause. China's internal flight network is huge and growing by the day.

[ElusiveEd]

As someone who works on these aircraft, 74's and A380s my thoughts are with the crew. (Not to mention the pax).

 

 Crew are trained in many things, including survival, but seems all are lost at sea. There are two types of ditching, planned and unplanned. Planned means you are aware of what is going to happen and you can make plans, get pax aware and get them all in lifejackets and prepare the aircraft and your mindset as what you need to do and when. Unplanned means what it says. I fear it was the latter as you would be looking for the inflatable sliderafts with evacuated pax on board.

 

No matter which airline you work for crew are like family. We socialise down-route and wish all safe journeys when we say goodbye.

 

it's such a sad day when we lose some. 

 

RIP

[Danizen]

Horrible. Being terrified of flying I always tell myself "planes don't just fall out of the sky". And then one falls out of the sky. My absolute worst nightmare.

If it makes you feel any better, you're more likely to win the lottery five times than die in a plane crash.

[bovril]

If it makes you feel any better, you're more likely to win the lottery five times than die in a plane crash.

 

Bollox I've already won it four times.

[Unabomber]

Bollox I've already won it four times.

I reckon I'm destined to be one of the unlucky ones who wins the lottery no times, and is too scared to ever fly.

[ADK]

Biggest cause of accidents by far is pilot error.

 

Another cause being equipment failure, usually due to some maintenance balls up.

 

Would be massively surprised if it was terrorists.

[bovril]

Jon Madden is scared of flying and he's rock hard.

[Leicesterpool]

If hijackers were in control still it'd be on radar?

Not sure, supposedly during the 9/11 attacks the hijackers of the planes that hit the world trade centre managed to somehow turn off the radar signal on the plane, so the air traffic control didn't have a clue to where the planes were going!

[The People's Hero]

Not sure, supposedly during the 9/11 attacks the hijackers of the planes that hit the world trade centre managed to somehow turn off the radar signal on the plane, so the air traffic control didn't have a clue to where the planes were going!

You can't just do that. It's not how radar works.

[ADK]

They might have turned off the plane's transponder so ATC couldn't see where the plane was but it would still be picked up on any local radar.

[leicsmac]

If a airliner disappears off active radar when it's near a coastline where there is lots of radar coverage, it's down. That's it. Active radar needs no signals being emitted by aircraft to detect it - like I said, it's not like it's a stealth plane, you can't just hide the radar signature of a hundred-ton lump of metal.

 

I can't see why this would be a terrorist attack unless there was someone onboard who would be specifically targetted. That said, the lack of a distress call means if this was a mechanical/pilot failure it either happened too fast for them to make a Mayday call (unlikely) or happened in a way where they didn't know they were in trouble until too late (like AF447 in 2009, improbable but possible).

Edited 9 March 2014 by leicsmac

[Merging Cultures]

No wreckage found yet. It's all a bit odd.

[SystonFox]

Not if it was a suicide mission...like 9/11...if 9/11 really happend that is.

It did really happen. I remember it vividly

Edited 9 March 2014 by SystonFox

[Dr The Singh]

It's abit like the tv programme lost.

[The Year Of The Fox]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576641/Terror-fears-missing-777-grow-Identities-ANOTHER-two-passengers-probed-suspicion-falls-four-booked-Chinese-airline.html

[MikeyT]

As we speak, my girlfriend is waiting at Heathrow to board a Malaysian Airlines flight to Australia.  

[SystonFox]

As we speak, my girlfriend is waiting at Heathrow to board a Malaysian Airlines flight to Australia.

It's a good thing. Another one won't go down any time soon

[MikeyT]

It's a good thing. Another one won't go down any time soon

True. I keep telling her all will be ok, but understandably she's crapping herself. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

Safest time to fly.

I flew a month after 9/11 and didn't give it a second thought

[Fox92]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ebf9065a-a73c-11e3-a9fe-00144feab7de.html

 

 

It is discovered that two passengers listed on the MH370's manifest, an Austrian and Italian, were in fact not on the plane.

[OzFox]

Safest time to fly.

I flew a month after 9/11 and didn't give it a second thought

 

I made a point of flying United after 9/11. Mainly because nobody else would, so you had a good chance of an upgrade or a row of seats to yourself

[MPH]

Very suspicious that 2 people were onboard using stolen passports.

Both tickets were bought together....

[MPH]

Firstly, why would a a Malaysian or Chinese terrorist want to blow up a plane? Is there some unknown conflict taking place outside of the media?

 

If it's a terrorist outside of these two countries, then what benefit is it blowing up this plane, primarily three quarters full of Chinese people?

 

I'd say it's not too uncommon for a tiny number of people to travel around Asia on stolen/forged passports looking for work. I'd say it's nothing more than that. Sky and particular media will have their fingers crossed of course.

  

There are separatist groups in China so it's possible but I agree about the passports, doesn't necessarily prove anything. Who knows?

Muslim separatists rampage and killed about 40 people just a few days ago. They are wanting an Islamic state.

[sphericalfox]

  

Muslim separatists rampage and killed about 40 people just a few days ago. They are wanting an Islamic state.

 

What do they want with the Chinese then?

[separator]

Very suspicious that 2 people were onboard using stolen passports.

The 2 men with stolen passports bought their tickets from the same place in Thailand, tickets had consecutive ticket numbers, and both were booked on a connecting flight from Beijing to Europe. Very strange.