Robin JD Popley Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 It's a shame but never mind. To be fair, reading a fair share of news on our shores and the rest of the continent, suggests that this lad has no inclination to play for us whatsoever and therefore, had he come on loan he may have been detrimental...going through the motions etc. We need people committed to the cause now more so than ever. If we keep to our guns we will should get someone in. We had to wait for Leo but he is paying the faith our club instilled in him time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 Yeah okay. Why don't you think for a second what you would do if you were him and not a Leicester supporter. Join the team that is first in the premiership with the best manager in the world. Live in london and train with the likes of cesc fabregas, Diego costa and eden hazard. Or join the team who is bottom of the league, live in Leicester and play with super davey nugent. In fairness, the latter might only have been for six months. He plays for Leicester for six months, scores 15 goals and saves us from relegation. He then returns to Chelsea and fights for a place there, or goes out on loan to a midtable Premier League outfit for a season. At the end of the loan, he secures a £20m move to Everton/Tottenham and has a long term Premier League career. The alternative is to be loaned out to a mediocre team in a mediocre league (Vitesse sit 10th and he'd count Josh McEachran as a team mate) and in all probability, stay in Holland and end up praying for a move to Hamburg or FC Twente in a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmeh Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 In fairness, the latter might only have been for six months. He plays for Leicester for six months, scores 15 goals and saves us from relegation. He then returns to Chelsea and fights for a place there, or goes out on loan to a midtable Premier League outfit for a season. At the end of the loan, he secures a £20m move to Everton/Tottenham and has a long term Premier League career. The alternative is to be loaned out to a mediocre team in a mediocre league (Vitesse sit 10th and he'd count Josh McEachran as a team mate) and in all probability, stay in Holland and end up praying for a move to Hamburg or FC Twente in a year or two. Yeah i get that but the poster was saying he should have joined us permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 He would be shite anyway. The league he has been playing in is worse than the championship Only difference is that this fella has carried his form into Europe. A hat-trick against Feyenoord (considering that Holland's back line at World Cup learnt their trade there) isn't to be sniffed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 Abramovich is good pals with vitesse' owner apparently. More than good pals. There's accusations that Vitesse are effectively a puppet club. Whenever Vitesse got near winning a title (which they have on a couple of occasions), their managers have quit saying that they can't develop a team. With the major rumour being that Chelsea potentially don't want an issue with Vitesse being in the CL...UEFA would investigate and find double ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 More than good pals. There's accusations that Vitesse are effectively a puppet club. Whenever Vitesse got near winning a title (which they have on a couple of occasions), their managers have quit saying that they can't develop a team. With the major rumour being that Chelsea potentially don't want an issue with Vitesse being in the CL...UEFA would investigate and find double ownership. That suggests that they wouldn't loan out their best players then. Perhaps they don't rate the players they send out there, which makes the signing a little bit weird. Wallace, Josh McEachran and Bertrand Traore aren't exactly their first teamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny the fox Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 He might be shight anyway..everton paid 32 million for a chelsea cast off, he has turned into a pile of s h i t . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 He will probably regret this move in about five years time. Time to move on, but hopefully we don't piss about for weeks and weeks like we did with Ulloa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHC Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 I wonder what computer game you play lol Call of duty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 Apparently Manchester City and Chelsea interested in signing Wilfried Bony.... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/30639686) ... If we were to get Kramaric, then WB to Chelsea could potentially pave the way for it.... Also, El Shaarawy for a reported £11.5mil?! If we want to splash the cash, an Italy international, still only 22, Left wing/forward wouldn't be a bad shout!! He's scored 1 all season at AC in a worse league and is a luxury player. No thanks, not at all what we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHC Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 Yeah okay. Why don't you think for a second what you would do if you were him and not a Leicester supporter. Join the team that is first in the premiership with the best manager in the world. Live in london and train with the likes of cesc fabregas, Diego costa and eden hazard. Or join the team who is bottom of the league, live in Leicester and play with super davey nugent. He won't be joining Chelsea's first team he will be joining their reserves and their reserves aren't even in the Premiership. What is this obsession with people wanting to live in London, some of the best players in the Premiership play outside of London and besides he can go there on his day off its only a couple of hours drive away. He would be training with Chelsea's reserves who are less well known then our first team. Stupid decision by the lad really he has just signed away three or four years of his career which will lead to him being outcast on loan somewhere abroad with absolutely no chance of getting in Chelsea's team because they just sign 50 million pound strikers when they want,he will get released on a free to play in the German third division for someone crap when he could have signed for Leicester, save us from relegation and after a couple of good seasons he could have gone to a big club who truly wanted him as their first choice. I'm probably just angry about our crap transfer policy, you have to spend money to make money so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannythefox Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 I don get why Chelsea would want to send him abroad surely you'd want to see how he handles the premier league and by loaning him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecky0306 Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 Let Chelsea sign him and loan him to us 10 million a lot for player playing in a poor league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callabinho Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 I don get why Chelsea would want to send him abroad surely you'd want to see how he handles the premier league and by loaning him out? He won't be signing for Chelsea, he's signing for Vitesse via Chelsea, there's no intention to play him, similar to the other 20odd players they have out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritwalker Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 Surely there should be a limit on how many players you can have on your books. That would stop rich clubs like Chelsea stockpiling players at so called feeder clubs. Dirty b*stards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugshot Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 In fairness, the latter might only have been for six months. He plays for Leicester for six months, scores 15 goals and saves us from relegation. He then returns to Chelsea and fights for a place there, or goes out on loan to a midtable Premier League outfit for a season. At the end of the loan, he secures a £20m move to Everton/Tottenham and has a long term Premier League career. The alternative is to be loaned out to a mediocre team in a mediocre league (Vitesse sit 10th and he'd count Josh McEachran as a team mate) and in all probability, stay in Holland and end up praying for a move to Hamburg or FC Twente in a year or two. Funny you should say that, I had forgotten Kakuta, hes 23 years old now and been loaned to 6 teams in four years (including Vitesse), remember how much was made of him when Chelsea signed him....what a future star everyone thought. Bertrand is another, 25 yrs old and been to 7 different clubs on loan. Also there are three players from Chelsea at Vitesse at the mo, these are McEachran, Traore and Wallace. Other current players from Chelsea to be at Vitesse through loans previously are Piazon, Davila, Cuevas, Atsu, Kalas and Delac. Seems most Chelsea young players bought from overseas are sent to Vitesse on loan for their first season before going elsewhere. Also notable is Van Ginkel coming to Chelsea from Vitesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 But we also bid more for deeney fair enough it was rejected but the intent was still there to spend more We may only spend £6 million but the fact we bid £8 million for this Croat suggests a bit more and we aren't going to only sign 1 player. You should probably try taking is as a rough outline and not an exact figure. Especially when budgets can change all the time, for instance John Percy said £10m very early in the summer, we could have saved money on contracts, got more from sponsorship than we thought etc. The point still stands, people rubbish someone who is a good source, just because they don't like what he says and then jump on some rubbish source just because they want to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 He won't be joining Chelsea's first team he will be joining their reserves and their reserves aren't even in the Premiership. What is this obsession with people wanting to live in London, some of the best players in the Premiership play outside of London and besides he can go there on his day off its only a couple of hours drive away. He would be training with Chelsea's reserves who are less well known then our first team. Stupid decision by the lad really he has just signed away three or four years of his career which will lead to him being outcast on loan somewhere abroad with absolutely no chance of getting in Chelsea's team because they just sign 50 million pound strikers when they want,he will get released on a free to play in the German third division for someone crap when he could have signed for Leicester, save us from relegation and after a couple of good seasons he could have gone to a big club who truly wanted him as their first choice. I'm probably just angry about our crap transfer policy, you have to spend money to make money so to speak. You realise of course this has nothing to do with us not offering enough? Chelsea can outmuscle us financially, we can't compete with them for money or prestige - only way we're going to beat Chelsea to a player is if he is taken in by Nigel's plan, if they want to play for Leicester or if they would prefer guaranteed first team football - in which case wages aren't a sticking point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayfox Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 everyones fave radio leicester man has just tweeted. looks like we have missed out on both signing and loan. off to chelski/holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 everyones fave radio leicester man has just tweeted. looks like we have missed out on both signing and loan. off to chelski/holland. If nobody at the club is talking to him then he can only be getting it out of the papers same as us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHC Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 You realise of course this has nothing to do with us not offering enough? Chelsea can outmuscle us financially, we can't compete with them for money or prestige - only way we're going to beat Chelsea to a player is if he is taken in by Nigel's plan, if they want to play for Leicester or if they would prefer guaranteed first team football - in which case wages aren't a sticking point. I'm well aware that Chelsea can outmuscle us financially but I'm pretty sure he won't have been promised first team football there, in fact I bet he has taken a gamble on the prospect of 'potentially' becoming a squad player there in a few years after being loaned to a few tin pot clubs abroad. I'm sure he would have been made aware that he was gonna be our main man if he signed for us. His decision to join them instead shows that he might lack confidence in his own ability as he probably thinks he will fail at Leicester or isn't good enough for the Premier League yet. Looking at it from a neutral point of view we would have been a much better option in the short term and probably in the long term too because Chelsea haven't exactly got a reputation for nurturing young players. When Chelsea next need a striker they will probably sign one of the best in the world for ridiculous money and leave this guy to rot in Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 Lukaku was loaned to 2 other Premier League clubs and never really broke into the Chelsea side. I am struggling to understand what the benefit to Chelsea is of sending him to a different country and a different culture to the UK when by all accounts there is a club 100 miles up the road desperate to take the player for 6 months. There's no benefit to Chelsea. They've effectively used Chelsea's money to make a signing for Vitesse. Absolute joke that shouldn't be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 We are hardly talking a young kid either; 23, nearly 200 games under his belt. He needs experience of a higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamba's Babes Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 Fvck him and fvck Chelsea. Probably a flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 31 December 2014 Share Posted 31 December 2014 I'm well aware that Chelsea can outmuscle us financially but I'm pretty sure he won't have been promised first team football there, in fact I bet he has taken a gamble on the prospect of 'potentially' becoming a squad player there in a few years after being loaned to a few tin pot clubs abroad. I'm sure he would have been made aware that he was gonna be our main man if he signed for us. His decision to join them instead shows that he might lack confidence in his own ability as he probably thinks he will fail at Leicester or isn't good enough for the Premier League yet. Looking at it from a neutral point of view we would have been a much better option in the short term and probably in the long term too because Chelsea haven't exactly got a reputation for nurturing young players. When Chelsea next need a striker they will probably sign one of the best in the world for ridiculous money and leave this guy to rot in Holland. And that wasn't your point - you claimed we were going to miss out on him due to miserliness in negotiating, which isn't true. Or he has the confidence in his own ability to think he will make the breakthrough at Chelsea: players there make it if they are good enough, and he probably thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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